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Beans 10-27-2017 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by gatorbird (Post 2455216)
No different than AirTran in 2006-2008. Any of us looking for work during that time knew the difference between the two places. On one hand, there was a profitable LCC that was a decent operation (but with crappy pay) but had seen it's phenomenal growth slow. Or, you could roll the dice with a tiny LCC (with similarly crappy pay) that was losing money but had investors who wanted to throw airplanes at it. The tiny, clueless LCC with deep-pocketed investors called first for many of us.

Did the masses really expect the 20-25% YoY growth to continue adfinitem?

Also, anyone know what happened to that profitable LCC when the growth slowed and they got big enough to step on a few toes?

Yeh and how did that integration go for those AirTran guys/gals. Can you say not so good

Lincoln Osiris 10-27-2017 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE (Post 2455342)
Well then after this earnings call maybe the medaitor/NMB should do their job

That’s the problem, the mediator is not doing their job and that’s why we are screwed.

DFWLECNOW 10-28-2017 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 2455735)
That’s the problem, the mediator is not doing their job and that’s why we are screwed.

Curious what you think the mediator's job is?

Lincoln Osiris 10-28-2017 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by DFWLECNOW (Post 2456052)
Curious what you think the mediator's job is?

To get me my money hoe.

gatorbird 10-30-2017 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Beans (Post 2455677)
Yeh and how did that integration go for those AirTran guys/gals. Can you say not so good

Apparently you have a hard time remaining on topic. The ins/outs of their SLI are not the point of the thread nor of my post. I simply pointed out that the explosive growth rate was bound to be curbed sooner or later, as it has for everyone. We look like AirTran, just a decade later. Always have. And we'll probably meet the same fate eventually, especially if Wall Street gets their way.

stanthecaddy 10-30-2017 01:28 PM

So, what's the verdict? Is the 161 -165 airbuses on propert by 2020 still the plan or has that changed?

UNSUBSCRIBE 10-30-2017 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by stanthecaddy (Post 2457429)
So, what's the verdict? Is the 161 -165 airbuses on propert by 2020 still the plan or has that changed?

Airframes remaining the same. They mentioned in the call growth isnt directly related to how many A/C or some BS like that

skipro101 10-31-2017 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE (Post 2457445)
Airframes remaining the same. They mentioned in the call growth isnt directly related to how many A/C or some BS like that

Growth to an analyst vs pilot means different things. Capacity growth or ASM growth can be dialed up/down by changing type of aircraft taken/returned to lessors, changing schedule frequency, and other factors.

dfwflyboy 11-03-2017 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE (Post 2457445)
Airframes remaining the same. They mentioned in the call growth isnt directly related to how many A/C or some BS like that

All our growth after 2018 are 320 NEOs only. How well have the NEOs been so far? Unless they get the engine issues fixed. I’ll bet 165 planes becomes 130.

3inthegreen 11-03-2017 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2460174)
All our growth after 2018 are 320 NEOs only. How well have the NEOs been so far? Unless they get the engine issues fixed. I’ll bet 165 planes becomes 130.

Probably roll them over to Leap orders


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