AR1978

Well is there anything in particular I can study prior to training to get my knowledge on 121 operations up?

DutchOven

Not really you will basically see it on IOE. Cargo load reports, passenger counts, ACARS, then the ramp operations like ops, tug driver comms, and ramp for pushback. It will be like drinking from a fire hydrant but by day 4 you should have it ironed out no problem. We all still fumble it up from time to time.

PossibleDeviation

Unfortunately not really. Like I said, buddy up with a 121 pilot to have them walk you through everyday flight operations, 121 regs and 117 rest requirements. If you know someone with access to Jeppesen FD Pro start looking at company charts and the other resources we use on there everyday. Spirit expects you to come in with this knowledge.

I remember reading "everything explained for the professional pilot" before training at my regional. It's a bit cheesy but it is full of good information that will prep you a bit.

FNGFO

I was hurt when I found out Solo rounded down for that claim.

FNGFO

Then they scaled back from 5 to get more people through the program.

I never did it before, and yet I didn’t manage to preflight a tug or jump on the engine and ride it like Major Kong.

FNGFO

You have nothing to fear if you can read numbers on a load sheet or dotz and then input them into the MCDU. It’s not rocket science. The Aircraft Load Sheet says 74 standard bags and 3 heavies in zone 1. Type in 74/3 and insert it into zone 1 in the FMS. Same with passenger counts. This many adults/kids in this area. Put that number into the MCDU. This many infants. Put that number in the entry for….infants.

Ramp operations are equally as tough. “Ramp, Spiritwings 123, Echo 31, push and start with information alpha.” And then you might have to say something really difficult like “ Cleared to push tail south abeam 33.”

And then for the real topper. “Cockpit to ground, brakes are released, cleared to push tail south abeam E33” followed by the even more devious “Brakes are set, cleared to disconnect, show me the pin on the left.” It’s right up there with string theory.

121 rules are easy. It’s essentially 91 IFR rules with some minor changes. Standard 135/91k alternate rules when you don’t fly to an airport listed in A012.

Truly. This is being made to be so much more than it is. Part 117 requires some study. I bet you can find a decent explanation online before coming to class, and we have handy cards on our lanyards that tell us our limits. Also not a difficult thing to do.

It’s like any indoc you will ever attend. Cooperate, graduate. Study with your classmates when you can, and show up knowing what they tell you to know.

TALPAtalker

Bravo is current.

onedolla

Well as easy as you made it sound, something’s causing 7.3% of our new hires for 2022 to wash out for “other/training”. Maybe it’s all “other”.

FNGFO

It requires effort. They’re not just handing you the type and place on the line, but it’s not some riddle wrapped in a mystery, cloaked in darkness and covered in an approximation of Ted’s beard.

Reports bravo. May or may not have gotten bravo. Well done.

GrumpyCaptain

So easy, yet gets it wrong… why you telling ramp what atis you have?