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Ratm0820 05-17-2022 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by IamEssential (Post 3424562)
Well that's a convenient defense when caught doing something needless and pointless. Maybe I'll try that on my wife next time and see how well that works "well dear, who gives a ****?"

You’re right, and I think we can all agree that if there’s one thing we can attribute to making aviation as safe as it’s been the past 15 years. It’s that you don’t give the atis information to ramp control when calling for a push.

FNGFO 05-17-2022 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Ratm0820 (Post 3424578)
You’re right, and I think we can all agree that if there’s one thing we can attribute to making aviation as safe as it’s been the past 15 years. It’s that you don’t give the atis information to ramp control when calling for a push.

Actually, I think the change to Notice to Air Missions will be the real difference maker.

And yes, zero ******s should be given about such a trivial thing.

IamEssential 05-17-2022 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 3424621)
Actually, I think the change to Notice to Air Missions will be the real difference maker.

And yes, zero ******s should be given about such a trivial thing.

Especially since you were the one called out on it, right? ;)

FNGFO 05-17-2022 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by IamEssential (Post 3424650)
Especially since you were the one called out on it, right? ;)

Abso-f’ing-lutely.

BeechedJet 05-17-2022 03:29 PM

Tell ramp we have Echo, call for clearance on tower, call ops on guard. Tomato, Potato

SGS233 05-17-2022 05:50 PM

Any Year-1 or Year-2 folks willing to share real-world (approximate) Year-1 pay at Spirit, please?

In reading upstream comments, I'm familiar with the $1,000/mo training pay. Ditto for the monthly guarantee and the hourly rate. Not to mention that reserve utilization seems to vary a little (or a lot) between domiciles.

Just looking for a realistic ballpark... in terms of what any (if any) soft pay might amount to.

Many thanks in advance!

pilotpoke 05-17-2022 06:52 PM

What is the approximate time you will be on the road/home during the training program? I was told that after indoc you would go home for a week then back to start the sim school. What is the schedule like after that and during OE? Are you essentially on a reserve type schedule during OE? Thanks.

JulesWinfield 05-17-2022 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by SGS233 (Post 3424813)
Any Year-1 or Year-2 folks willing to share real-world (approximate) Year-1 pay at Spirit, please?

In reading upstream comments, I'm familiar with the $1,000/mo training pay. Ditto for the monthly guarantee and the hourly rate. Not to mention that reserve utilization seems to vary a little (or a lot) between domiciles.

Just looking for a realistic ballpark... in terms of what any (if any) soft pay might amount to.

Many thanks in advance!

You can't pick up anything on reserve, so the opportunities to make extra money are really luck of the draw until you can hold a line. Just plan on guarantee.

sioux8ships 05-17-2022 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by pilotpoke (Post 3424846)
What is the approximate time you will be on the road/home during the training program? I was told that after indoc you would go home for a week then back to start the sim school. What is the schedule like after that and during OE? Are you essentially on a reserve type schedule during OE? Thanks.

OE will not be reserve type scheduling. You’ll be flying the best trips available that crew train pulls and gives to LCA no matter what their seniority is.

CincoDeMayo 05-17-2022 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by sioux8ships (Post 3424860)
OE will not be reserve type scheduling. You’ll be flying the best trips available that crew train pulls and gives to LCA no matter what their seniority is.

Yes, and instead of getting some repetition of take offs and landings in, flying multi leg days, you’ll be doing 3+ hours in cruise working a blue folder. But don’t worry, the check airman will sign you off and you’ll get landings in with the line pilots


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