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TurboFanMan 05-09-2022 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3419589)
10 a month since the start of the year

Thank you much!!

JulesWinfield 05-09-2022 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by TurboFanMan (Post 3419677)
Thank you much!!

Supposedly going up to 30+ in the summer, so it should be around 200+ ,conservatively.

sioux8ships 05-09-2022 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3419678)
Supposedly going up to 30+ in the summer, so it should be around 200+ ,conservatively.

We will have to figure something out for that to happen. Netting 20-30 pilots a month after attrition isn’t helping out.

JulesWinfield 05-09-2022 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by sioux8ships (Post 3419729)
We will have to figure something out for that to happen. Netting 20-30 pilots a month after attrition isn’t helping out.

We have somewhere around 20 new airplanes coming online. We definitely need to stop the bleeding.

Trip7onfloats 05-10-2022 07:52 PM

Any insights on what the training is like for new pilots at NK post covid, since NK has lowered hiring Mins ? Currently PIC typed on CL30 with 1100 TT hours serving as an FO for a 135. Read on here going to spirit would be a bad idea, I’ve also read it wouldn’t be a bad idea if I study hard. Going to Spirit at 1500 sounds appealing but I would also like to avoid a 121 failure on my record. I don’t have my ATP yet. But I am familiar with flying a jet and the automation. Any help would be appreciated.

MCDUmanipulator 05-10-2022 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3419738)
We have somewhere around 20 new airplanes coming online. We definitely need to stop the bleeding.

park 20 319’s or 320 CEO’s problem solved in the companies eyes.

LAXtoDEN 05-10-2022 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by Rubber Ducky (Post 3414956)
Just know your flows well before coming. Limitations, memory items, and proficiency items are the next things of importance but not as necessary for per say day 1. By the beginning of week 2 you will need to have a good idea of doing a difsripp; know your briefings; and know when to call for what checklist and how to correctly do the flow and the triggers that start each one. End of week two you will have a gate that you will need to show that you can Satisfactory fly a flight from point a to point b doing all flows and checklist correctly. They might give a little if you mess up a thing or two but at this point you should have it down good.

But overall I thought the training was pretty easy and organized. The initial training has a pass rate of over 95 % so don’t believe anyone saying it’s so hard and you only get 5 sims. If someone says that it’s because they don’t know or didn’t study.

My background I come from a Saab 340 so you don’t have to fly jets to learn this. Just have to put in the effort.

This is spot on. It was easy because it was organized and well paced. The previous regional I flew for was organized as well and good training, but a firehose type of footprint. Because the pace was fast it unfortunately exposed some of the slower learners who put in the effort, but it wasn’t enough. I think it’s close to a 15-20% dropout rate at my previous employer.

You have plenty of time to sit down and study everything required to be recited from memory. If you put in the effort you will succeed.

SlimBob 05-11-2022 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7onfloats (Post 3420307)
Any insights on what the training is like for new pilots at NK post covid, since NK has lowered hiring Mins ? Currently PIC typed on CL30 with 1100 TT hours serving as an FO for a 135. Read on here going to spirit would be a bad idea, I’ve also read it wouldn’t be a bad idea if I study hard. Going to Spirit at 1500 sounds appealing but I would also like to avoid a 121 failure on my record. I don’t have my ATP yet. But I am familiar with flying a jet and the automation. Any help would be appreciated.

You passed your 135.293/297 by knowing the same things required for passing a type ride here. If you're worried about a failure you could struggle to succeed anywhere. Sounds like you're still learning. Plus your flying is more fun.

AR1978 05-16-2022 05:47 AM

So I did some digging and Spirit has 4 like 4 sims and a 2 month course while Frontier has 8 sims and around a 3 month course.

From reading on here memorize the limitations, memory items, & flows in advance, use A320guide.com and 1step.com, trust the A320 system, etc...Is there a degree of on the job training after the Spirit 2 month course since that seems to be a bit shorter than the other courses? Also, I'm leaving the military so while I've not been flying a desk I'm going to be new to the world of the airlines so would there be any other general knowledge and/or technical areas I should study in advance?

PossibleDeviation 05-16-2022 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by AR1978 (Post 3423543)
So I did some digging and Spirit has 4 like 4 sims and a 2 month course while Frontier has 8 sims and around a 3 month course.

From reading on here memorize the limitations, memory items, & flows in advance, use A320guide.com and 1step.com, trust the A320 system, etc...Is there a degree of on the job training after the Spirit 2 month course since that seems to be a bit shorter than the other courses? Also, I'm leaving the military so while I've not been flying a desk I'm going to be new to the world of the airlines so would there be any other general knowledge and/or technical areas I should study in advance?

Spirit has 4 sims in FLL that are primarily used for new hires. As of last week they are starting to use DFW, MCO and MIA for new hire sim events.

Show up to training having flows, memory items and limitations down 100%.

Indoc is very light here. If you don’t know how 121 operates you will struggle as indoc here is taught by instructors that have never flown the actual airplane or the line. Buddy up with others who have flown 121 and can work through the details with you. As it is being taught now I wouldn’t recommend it for your first 121 training experience.


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