No body wants a furlough, but if there was one, isn't that what we all want? Is that not what you want? you're as **** as beavis.

Well, there’s these guys:

https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...hare-Agreement

Yeah after the legacy rates pulled them down a decade ago. You should be ashamed.

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

Agreed. They all whined and name called yet now they defend but still name call. Consider the source and their naivety.

Never thought I would say this but Feng was right...

And how many negotiating cycles did it take for WN to get to their position?

4 days off is useless with PBS. I'm in favor of PBS, you can get way better, customized schedules, Union will choose vendor which is huge. You guys that haven't worked under PBS yet will see that you will build your own schedule. 3 days off, 4, 5, whatever you want, YOU are in charge, not the company. so 4 days off is something we should've given away to get extra minimum days off. The company knows we "perceive" it as value, but it has none in the PBS world. Everyone will waive it, you'll see. To get the schedule you want, and trips you want, you'll do 3 days off this week to have 5+ next week.
We need to read the language and see the minimum windows each month, that will determine how well we can control our days off.

for reference::

just got a trip rig example on my feb sched.

4 day trip: 3 duty periods, 65.25 TAFB, has 23:53 layover, so currently its 18:00 4 day

with new book, 5 hour average duty would be 15 hours. layover credit won't count since its not 24 (that blows), trip rig. 65.25/3.5= 18.64. so its worth .64 more hours than current book, however, the 24 hour layover kinda screwed me, would've been 20 hours. so expect the new book to be slightly better.

my last trip is 1 leg each day, for 4 days. 18:00 currently, will be 20:00 after 5 hour average day. TAFB is 70 hours, so 70/3.5=20 (same)

my other 2 trips would be block, so overall, I'd get about 3 hours extra credit with new book. My line is 74 credit now.

current book: 74 hrs*72=$5328, 15 days off, however first trip will be TXR so 19 days off YAY! :)

new book: 77 hrs*104=$8008, 15 days off, no TXR :(

lets say I picked up the EXACT 18:00 4 day that was TXR'd on current book, 92 hrs*72=$6624 with same 15 days off.
now JRM same trip. 74 hrs +36 jrm= 110 hrs *72=$7920


I'm about 50% of FO list, 2nd year pay. Granted this doesn't account for what I would've got with PBS, who knows. but overall its a $1500 raise each month for me. plus scope, plus LTD, plus 11%DC I imagine I can still drop/swap/ etc.

If anything, its worth seeing the difference, like I said, many unknowns with exactly what I'd get with PBS

OH..and these are all commutable.

Also took them 5 friggin years to get most recent T/A

How would you pick up what was dropped due to TXR? There is a reason it dropped off, lol