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-   -   We Got a T/A!! (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/spirit/110994-we-got-t.html)

Tranquility 02-01-2018 09:13 AM
Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 2517129)
If you are waiting to hear about a "plan B" from the NC or MEC if this TA gets voted down, don't hold your breath, the option won't be discussed during the road shows. It doesn't mean the plan doesn't exist. What you will hear are dire warnings of uncertainty and the unknown if it gets voted down. We've been here before.
Quite the contrary. I am waiting to hear a plan B from the naysayers, not the MEC or NC. I fully anticipate that they will step down if this is not ratified.

tinman1 02-01-2018 10:13 AM
Originally Posted by astral (Post 2517143)
The NC will sell this, regardless of letter, it's their position and I respect it.
Remember, these guys had their names on the TRO, and were sued personally.
I met one of them following that event and he did not look like himself.
It is extremely stressful to have that dangling overhead, while negotiating.
Having said that, I truly believe they were passionate and did the best they could.
In or out, they have my full respect and gratitude.
Same here. Honestly I'm a little surprised that there were not any resignations after the TRO was issued, being that these guys risked being compromised over it. Kudos to them for sticking it out, but I have a feeling that it affected our overall bargaining power.

Dukeuno 02-01-2018 10:52 AM
Originally Posted by WhatajokeSPA (Post 2517099)
“Hiring issues not a problem” you must not be an FO. The entire grid is red. It’s impossible to swap or drop anything but yeah we’re staffed properly. I’m assuming your a captain that’s been here between 3-6 years that can only see the money!!


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Man look at our on time and completion factors for the last 3 to 4 months. Hiring is not an issue right now, they have plenty of Apps from ASA guys right now that want to come here.

Qotsaautopilot 02-01-2018 02:48 PM
I’ll keep this out of the dh section thread since the ta isn’t out yet but I’d love to see multi-hour ground DH made illegal, or red eye DH, or transcon without business or a big front seat. Ground DH is a bunch of BS. Especially the 3-5hr type

Macjet 02-01-2018 04:37 PM
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2517434)
I’ll keep this out of the dh section thread since the ta isn’t out yet but I’d love to see multi-hour ground DH made illegal, or red eye DH, or transcon without business or a big front seat. Ground DH is a bunch of BS. Especially the 3-5hr type
I want premium pay to ride in the back of our dirt bag airline. Our seats suck Tijuana sausage.

ZebraMan 02-01-2018 05:36 PM
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2517434)
I’ll keep this out of the dh section thread since the ta isn’t out yet but I’d love to see multi-hour ground DH made illegal, or red eye DH, or transcon without business or a big front seat. Ground DH is a bunch of BS. Especially the 3-5hr type
Well we will have paid fatigue now. So if you are given one of these junk DH, and you're tired, bust out fatigued, collect the pay, and fill out a safety report on why it was tiresome. Maybe after enough of these, they will stop having them. If not, they will continue to pay for the fatigue calls.

Qotsaautopilot 02-02-2018 06:12 AM
When are we supposed to get this thing? Let me guess, 11:59pm?

FLBusDrvr 02-02-2018 06:36 AM
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2517786)
When are we supposed to get this thing? Let me guess, 11:59pm?
11:59 pacific time

LloydBraun 02-02-2018 06:37 AM
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2517786)
When are we supposed to get this thing? Let me guess, 11:59pm?
I’m with you. WTF. Are they still writing stuff up.

westwind1 02-02-2018 06:47 AM
Originally Posted by LloydBraun (Post 2517806)
I’m with you. WTF. Are they still writing stuff up.
I think they have to get the website online as well before the send it out.


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