The TA Road Show video is now online!
02-12-2018, 06:21 PM
#51
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Position: CA
Posts: 183
Ha, can't argue with facts but you will sure try. You're doing great
02-12-2018, 06:57 PM
#52
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 880
No you can’t.
Another poster shared the savings from 200 less pilots required and the cost differential decreased quite a bit, but it’s still in our corner, quite significantly.
These no voters can’t be reasoned with. The rumors that were spread on here today is proof of that. They’ll come up with anything.
Someone today, on the live streamed ORD road show, expressed concern about all the concessions. The NC did an excellent job explaining the process and why they reached the agreement they did, especially when talking about what the company really wanted.
Could the deal be better? Of course it could be. We could get everything we wanted. Do we live in a perfect world? No.
While some no voters have truely legitimate reasons for voting no, the majority on here are living in a pipe dream. APC is a terrible venue to try and gauge actual sentiment. Always has been always will.
Go back and look at my original post when the TA was posted. I shared the same feelings as many on here. I’ve since taken the time to get educated. Will they do the same?
Another poster shared the savings from 200 less pilots required and the cost differential decreased quite a bit, but it’s still in our corner, quite significantly.
These no voters can’t be reasoned with. The rumors that were spread on here today is proof of that. They’ll come up with anything.
Someone today, on the live streamed ORD road show, expressed concern about all the concessions. The NC did an excellent job explaining the process and why they reached the agreement they did, especially when talking about what the company really wanted.
Could the deal be better? Of course it could be. We could get everything we wanted. Do we live in a perfect world? No.
While some no voters have truely legitimate reasons for voting no, the majority on here are living in a pipe dream. APC is a terrible venue to try and gauge actual sentiment. Always has been always will.
Go back and look at my original post when the TA was posted. I shared the same feelings as many on here. I’ve since taken the time to get educated. Will they do the same?
02-12-2018, 07:05 PM
#53
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Joined APC: Mar 2009
Posts: 532
No you can’t.
Another poster shared the savings from 200 less pilots required and the cost differential decreased quite a bit, but it’s still in our corner, quite significantly.
These no voters can’t be reasoned with. The rumors that were spread on here today is proof of that. They’ll come up with anything.
Someone today, on the live streamed ORD road show, expressed concern about all the concessions. The NC did an excellent job explaining the process and why they reached the agreement they did, especially when talking about what the company really wanted.
Could the deal be better? Of course it could be. We could get everything we wanted. Do we live in a perfect world? No.
While some no voters have truely legitimate reasons for voting no, the majority on here are living in a pipe dream. APC is a terrible venue to try and gauge actual sentiment. Always has been always will.
Go back and look at my original post when the TA was posted. I shared the same feelings as many on here. I’ve since taken the time to get educated. Will they do the same?
Another poster shared the savings from 200 less pilots required and the cost differential decreased quite a bit, but it’s still in our corner, quite significantly.
These no voters can’t be reasoned with. The rumors that were spread on here today is proof of that. They’ll come up with anything.
Someone today, on the live streamed ORD road show, expressed concern about all the concessions. The NC did an excellent job explaining the process and why they reached the agreement they did, especially when talking about what the company really wanted.
Could the deal be better? Of course it could be. We could get everything we wanted. Do we live in a perfect world? No.
While some no voters have truely legitimate reasons for voting no, the majority on here are living in a pipe dream. APC is a terrible venue to try and gauge actual sentiment. Always has been always will.
Go back and look at my original post when the TA was posted. I shared the same feelings as many on here. I’ve since taken the time to get educated. Will they do the same?
02-12-2018, 09:46 PM
#54
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 195
An ALPA rep at the road show today said that he has been working with on contracts for various airlines for the past 40+ years and the 14 to 1 ratio is the highest he has ever seen by a large margin. After educating myself on the TA for several days and listening to factual information I feel that the NC did very well
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02-12-2018, 11:27 PM
#55
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Greed by the top 10% and fear from the bottom 40%. It has been a membership priority to have scope but the Senior Seattle Mafia rolls up on the negotiators and prevents it....We are where we are by are own fault.....We have never had a TA that was close to a yes vote but the same story about being “parked” and losing gains etc has frightened 45% of our group and when you add that to the sleazy 15% at the top they win.....If your TA is good and you disregard the threats from the road shows and it stands on its own then vote it in and move on....Alaska is a classic example of what not to do....
02-13-2018, 12:03 AM
#56
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: NK CA
Posts: 827
You might want to listen again... Not one rep has spoken on any video. That was art... He has been around longer than you and me both. He is a pompous ass, but he isn't dumb. Before you try and quote someone, he sure your speaking truth. I happen to agree with your thoughts, but they should be based on facts. If not, you lose credibility.
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02-13-2018, 02:25 AM
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 193
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