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SourGrapes 02-16-2018 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Dukeuno (Post 2530075)
I am predicting it passes by 70% to 80%. We should have a poll on the over/under on how much it passes by.:)

that's funny, that's what hillary clinton was predicted to win by

CLRtoPush 02-16-2018 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2530214)
that's funny, that's what hillary clinton was predicted to win by

Russia is meddling in our vote.

3 green 02-16-2018 12:04 PM

From an outsider looking in. A pay increase is a given, it's a pilot's market right now. It's the other QOL issues you should be looking at. I haven't seen or do not know anything about your TA so I can't comment on it good or bad. I can say at Delta we had a horrible TA that ALPA told us was the best we would get. Our CEO even sent a letter to all pilots saying do not vote this down because this is our best offer. Well it got voted down for the first time ever, and we got MUCH better on round 2. Good luck to you guys however it turns out.

NKSpilot 02-16-2018 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 2530234)
From an outsider looking in. A pay increase is a given, it's a pilot's market right now. It's the other QOL issues you should be looking at. I haven't seen or do not know anything about your TA so I can't comment on it good or bad. I can say at Delta we had a horrible TA that ALPA told us was the best we would get. Our CEO even sent a letter to all pilots saying do not vote this down because this is our best offer. Well it got voted down for the first time ever, and we got MUCH better on round 2. Good luck to you guys however it turns out.

What was your old rate compared to TA1? I might be also willing to vote down and lose out on, say, $10/hr while waiting for TA2 but not $70/hr.

Not when we need the scope protections. Not when we need the LTD. Not when we have 67%+ increase in retirement to lock in now.

Not really an even comparison and thats not even taking into account the NMB situation.

Stan Spadowski 02-16-2018 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by illtake2 (Post 2530064)
What’s everyone hearing on the line compared to the 10 that always chime in on here?


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No up North...


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Stan Spadowski 02-16-2018 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Tool (Post 2530110)
Most no voters are the following;



1 Loud and vocal ( like a child not getting its way ).

2 Very senior and enjoy monthly conflicts.

3 Hate PBS but have never had it.

4 Have not bothered to use the educational tools available to them ( Road shows, TA website or read MEC emails.

5 Making their decision from “fake news”.

6 Voting no because they always vote no.



What about the people who HAVE USED PBS, and hated it?



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illtake2 02-16-2018 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Stan Spadowski (Post 2530274)
No up North...


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I’m up north and have not talked to a single “no” the only ones are DFW and FLL gravy trains.


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lowandslow 02-16-2018 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by illtake2 (Post 2530276)
I’m up north and have not talked to a single “no” the only ones are DFW and FLL gravy trains.


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I’m a DFW no and far away from “gravy train” status. I guess we’re done with unity now so let’s get back to my base is better than yours.

Happy Grapes 02-16-2018 02:02 PM

This Shall Pass
 
Not only will this pass, but it will pass by a large amount.

Its about 80% from guys I talk to on the line.

LloydBraun 02-16-2018 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by illtake2 (Post 2530276)
I’m up north and have not talked to a single “no” the only ones are DFW and FLL gravy trains.


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Was thinking the same thing. Up north and haven’t flown or talked with a single no yet.


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