Sounds like a big ole mess. Hope when we merge or acquire(just a matter of time) our transition will go smoothly 😳

You should look at the realistic numbers. For example, at Southwest, our plug captains are at 60% on master seniority list, and we operate a single type.

At legacies with multiple types, that number goes down significantly because a number of people would rather be widebody FO’s than reserve NB captains so that number gets distorted quite a bit. In the extreme case, Delta had first year Mad Dog captains. FedEx has first/second year 757 captains. 12-15 year upgrade at legacies or Southwest.... only by choice.

Most airlines the most junior captain is 55-60% with exceptions like NYC md80 CA at Delta.

I think at UAL that number is in the mid to high 70’s. Same with AA.

Leaving out the AA mainline RJ pilots the most junior NB CA at the end of 2017 was around 10,700 of 14,700, or 73% using your terminology. A newhire is 4000 attritions away from a NB CA upgrade in the most junior base which just the mandatory retirements cover in 5 years.

Thanks for the input, looks like I need to run the numbers again :cool:

Even better. Stand corrected

Junior 737 captain is 11,100.

Who knows how long upgrade will be here in a few years? Or if we will even exist.

The decision is personal for every one of us. I bypassed a 3 year upgrade because I liked getting my first choice of line every month. And transition.

Even though I made it pretty clear that I was a No Voter, I'm still not leaving. This is a fine place to be for a career. It may not be as glamorous as wearing a hat and getting a lie flat deadhead, but it will take care of my family for another 20-ish years. (Let's hope) I for one am not willing to start over yet again.

What are the reserve rules like under the new TA? I don't have a clue what they were before, so a full run-down is appreciated.

If you have no idea what they were before then why do you care about what they were? If you want to come here then I can see caring about what they are now but a compare and contrast is pointless.