TA Ratified.
 

98% voted with 70% voting to ratify the contract.

Contract 2018 is now official.

Congrats to you guys.

I need exact numbers anybody have those?


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Sorry to the industry and fellow union pilots.

Does pay start today, tomorrow, or March 2 (day 1 of March bid period)? I think the NC was saying March 1st at the roadshows but it was the least of my concern so I forgot

March 15 check will have the new rates with overtime from last month at old rates.

I understand how the pay periods work. My question is what time and date exactly the new pay kicks in

Tonight March 1st at midnight?

That would be 1 day of feb bid period on new rates

Congrats!!

A sad day for the airline industry. Spirit pilots. From strikers to sellouts. Lost all my respect.

Congratulations to Spirit pilots on their new contract.

Wish you guys would have gotten at least profit sharing since SAVE should remain even more profitable now, but it is what it is. Maybe next time. Congrats again.

And you’re previous post was professional? Why don’t you worry about how far off your companies offer is from our new CBA. I hope you do better than us, but I doubt you will.

When will "Date of signing" be? Is that today, or do the NC and company have to wrap up final paperwork to "sign"?

I hope they do much better and when the merger is announced we can start negotiating out JCBA next year from whoever is higher and has the best scope

The email from Bob from today leads me to believe DOS will be tomorrow (3/1). Then comes the implementation schedule. No idea how long that'll take.

Absolutely.

Congrats to those of you who wanted it pass and sorry for those of you that wished for it to fail. Either way, it is done. Time to learn the new contract in and out, educate your fellow pilots, and ready the grievance forms. I expect nothing less from a scumbag ULCC management group. I hope the Easter eggs you find in the contract are gifts for the pilots and not for the company.

March 1st everyone, pay a little more attention.

The pay is brought up dramatically. That isn't bringing the industry down. It is raising the industry average pay which is a good thing.

By that logic, no contract should ever be approved unless it's the new best in the industry, regardless of the airline.

I don't think that's how it works in the real world. In the real world, 50% of everything is "below average". That bottom 50% doesn't need to get crapped on by people trying to piggyback on everyone else's successes while criticizing everyone else who doesn't measure up to whatever imagined standard you're using at any particular moment. The bottom 50% knows they're in the bottom 50%, and most of them are working to improve their lot in life without stepping on others. It's hard enough without having to climb up against a river of poop flowing downhill from uphill critics, let alone climb up dragging along everyone trying to hitch a free ride on the backs of anyone who gets any sort of improvement, and then complaining when the improvements other people achieve are somehow not good enough.

Quit your whining and poo flinging, or I'll be forced to throw more bad analogies in your general direction.

Funny how messed up someone’s brain must be to think that increasing my pay by 50%+ (among other increases) is bringing the industry down instead of up.

I guess simple math is hard for some people?

What has Frontier pilots done to bring up the industry?

Come on an NK forum and put our pilot group down, what do you expect? Take a look in the mirror, Mr Consummate Professional.

So far we haven’t done d!ck to bring up the industry. Hopefully that changes soon or we burn the place down trying.

Congrats to you guys!

Cmon guys - keep it professional.

Congrats to the Spirit Pilots! Also great work on the the whole contaminated cockpit air issue. :)

Scoop

Spirit pilots wish the Frontier pilot group the best in their struggle to achieve a new CBA.

Your insulting remarks only show how ill-informed you are regarding our new agreement. It is not perfect, but is a huge step to achieve in one negotiating cycle.

Good luck to you

really should be concerned with your own company and not what Spirit pilots are doing..just some advice from someone who knows.

Spirit pilots..congrats on your new contract, i wish you could have gotten profit sharing and better work rules but this is in no way a bad contract at all. Your new pay rates are more than repectable and should be proud you will be compensated for your efforts.

well said this contract is a very good thing for the industry

Absolutely nothing. Yet. Hopefully we won’t sell out. Nothing flinging poo, just disappointed, as your ratification will directly affect my life, in spite of you guys thinking that it is “just your dumpster fire.” Good luck to you all, and congrats, I guess, on your stellar contract.

My pay did NOT up 50%, $50 for the top guys.
100% behind on profit sharing....

Don't worry about hit your head on the bar, we at Spirit trip over it. Another low tier move by low tier thinking. :eek:

Not your airline not your contact. Go get what you can. Just remember number 5 is Alaska. I would love to see what Frontier can accomplish. As of yet crickets. I would say SPA did what they could and by 70% it's good enough. I will enjoy what I can. You all can **** where you want. I choose to move on.

So does that mean all flying starting at midnight tonight pays the new rates? March 1st is on the feb bid period also which would also mean that 1/30th of my feb guarantee should be the new rates. That is obviously not reflected in today’s 1/2 feb guarantee check so it should be a retro payment on the 15th correct. Also anyone flying above guarantee tomorrow would be compensated at new rates which would be reflected in their “over guarantee” for feb check on the 15th

Or do new rates start at the beginning of the March bid period 3/2

This. Good luck to everyone else, sincerely. We all wanted more (who doesn't?) but this is an incredible jump in one cycle. The largest to date, nothing to be ashamed of

Congratulations to the Spirit pilot group. Progress!

Congrats guys.

TA Ratified.
 

Maybe you forgot we were SO BELOW average prior that the large percentage from this TA. offsets a net gain in industry average...

When you start from so low, any double digit percentage increase looks H U G E....


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He should have go to roadshow - get educated

As a F9 pilot I’m glad you guys got the deal done with significant improvements. As said before this helps us and the whole industry. Congrats!

The NC specifically said March 1st during the online LAS roadshow. However, that’s an easy one to overlook. My understanding was they wanted to have this all done so they could start the March bid period fresh under the new pay scale as to simplify things some what. If that’s the case then they probably meant March 2nd, AKA the beginning of the March bid period.

A good bit of authentic Frontier gibberish being tossed about.

We just got stuck with CURRENT JetBlue rates and lost all of our QOL.....
How do you all think these rates (3rd from the bottom of the majors) will measure up with the rest of the industry in 2025, after we haven’t gotten a raise in years because management is once again dragging their feet in another negotiation?

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Could someone share the full TA ratified, please?