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Qotsaautopilot 03-01-2018 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by lowandslow (Post 2540180)
?? Did I need to say 17.5 block in to block out?

Kinda yeah.

putzin 03-01-2018 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Papa Bear (Post 2540127)
Absolutely...As a B6 dude we are fighting our azzes off for better everything.
You essentially voted for our pay rates as of 2016 for the next 8 yrs and you made the company much more profitable with PBS.What’s done is done...
Good luck in 2025!

I always laugh when a Jblu guy councils. You realize you've never fought or paid a price for anything, right?

I'm not sure what line you think you're holding since your pay has been handed to you to keep Alpa off the property and you gladly accepted. Good for you, unfortunate for the rest of us. You undercut the industry for a decade and did nothing to further the cause. Well, except your fancy blue chips. Most of your cheerleadrs were still in flight school while the rest of us were ensuring you people didn't change flight and duty rules with OUR union dues. JFK-LAX-JFK ring a bell?

Achieve "industry leading" on your new contract and you'll have our respect (which I doubt you care about anymore than you did since 99). Short of that, you and your 700 man March mean chit.

By the way, thanks for joining Alpa because you were afraid of a merger and being stapled.

And YES, we sold too much for too little!

Oh and "good luck".:rolleyes:

Trowserchilli 03-01-2018 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2540203)
I always laugh when a Jblu guy councils. You realize you've never fought or paid a price for anything, right?

I'm not sure what line you think you're holding since your pay has been handed to you to keep Alpa off the property and you gladly accepted. Good for you, unfortunate for the rest of us. You undercut the industry for a decade and did nothing to further the cause. Well, except your fancy blue chips. Most of your cheerleadrs were still in flight school while the rest of us were ensuring you people didn't change flight and duty rules with OUR union dues. JFK-LAX-JFK ring a bell?

Achieve "industry leading" on your new contract and you'll have our respect (which I doubt you care about anymore than you did since 99). Short of that, you and your 700 man March mean chit.

By the way, thanks for joining Alpa because you were afraid of a merger and being stapled.

And YES, we sold too much for too little!

Oh and "good luck".:rolleyes:

Good post. Really is amazing isn’t it.

They did all that and cleaned the aircraft.

Qotsaautopilot 03-01-2018 07:14 AM

That’s all dandy except many of Jetblue’s pilots were long ALPA dues paying members for years or decades before they went to Jetblue to improve from the regional hell that ALPA helped to create. And now they are members again at Jetblue. Let’s keep perspective.

If Jetblue had called me first and I was based at home it’s likely that I would be there and not here at Spirit. No kid goes to Flight school with aspirations of being a Spirit or Jetblue pilot. We’re all on the same team brothers

OpenYourEyes 03-01-2018 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2540203)
I always laugh when a Jblu guy councils. You realize you've never fought or paid a price for anything, right?

I'm not sure what line you think you're holding since your pay has been handed to you to keep Alpa off the property and you gladly accepted. Good for you, unfortunate for the rest of us. You undercut the industry for a decade and did nothing to further the cause. Well, except your fancy blue chips. Most of your cheerleadrs were still in flight school while the rest of us were ensuring you people didn't change flight and duty rules with OUR union dues. JFK-LAX-JFK ring a bell?

Achieve "industry leading" on your new contract and you'll have our respect (which I doubt you care about anymore than you did since 99). Short of that, you and your 700 man March mean chit.

By the way, thanks for joining Alpa because you were afraid of a merger and being stapled.

And YES, we sold too much for too little!

Oh and "good luck".:rolleyes:

poor putzin, truth hurts......don't worry putzin, you did the best u were capable of

Chimpy 03-01-2018 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2540227)
That’s all dandy except many of Jetblue’s pilots were long ALPA dues paying members for years or decades before they went to Jetblue to improve from the regional hell that ALPA helped to create. And now they are members again at Jetblue. Let’s keep perspective.

If Jetblue had called me first and I was based at home it’s likely that I would be there and not here at Spirit. No kid goes to Flight school with aspirations of being a Spirit or Jetblue pilot. We’re all on the same team brothers

True, I grew up wanting to be an Eastern & PanAm Pilot 🤔

putzin 03-01-2018 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by OpenYourEyes (Post 2540232)
...... you did the best u were capable of

Uh no, we didn't. Hopefully you'll/they'll, be our saviors. Fellow, low tier, "team" member. 😘

putzin 03-01-2018 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2540274)
True, I grew up wanting to be an Eastern & PanAm Pilot 🤔

And write bad checks!

OpenYourEyes 03-01-2018 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2540278)
Uh no, we didn't. Hopefully you'll/they'll, be our saviors. Fellow, low tier, "team" member. ��

Discount Fares, Discount Pilots-------we'all get it



INDUSTRY STANDARD IN 2026!!!!!

CMFIC 03-01-2018 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2540203)
I always laugh when a Jblu guy councils. You realize you've never fought or paid a price for anything, right?

I wouldn't get that upset with folks from Frontier or JB airing their frustrations at the outcome of our contract. Our vote will make their negotiations that much more difficult. It would be no different than if Southwest's last agreement was our current pay rates plus givebacks of many QOL items. That would have frustrated some of us... and made our road more challenging.

That being said, our group should invest wisely any additional income that may come with C2018 so we can each be in a position to turn down a substandard offer next time around, should it be presented.

It's been fun, Peace


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