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Originally Posted by Yetifan
(Post 2540940)
Good job setting up the Frontier guys for failure and lowering the bar even further!
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Originally Posted by Alphafloor
(Post 2541060)
Clearly you were not breast fed as a child.
One poster points out that this drags down the negotiating environment for them and everyone else. Spirit pilots respond with “Was it your Mom (not me) or your Dad that didn't give you enough love...” “Clearly you were not breast fed as a child.” This is all coming together now. |
Originally Posted by Yetifan
(Post 2540940)
Good job setting up the Frontier guys for failure and lowering the bar even further!
My advice to have faith. I was surprised and I would not be at all surprised if F9 new contract will have similar or even higher pay. |
Originally Posted by Green Giant
(Post 2541243)
Actually we raised the bar. Top pay at the end of the contract is $260 at year 12. I guess you are mad because you don't think your contract will be as good.
My advice to have faith. I was surprised and I would not be at all surprised if F9 new contract will have similar or even higher pay. |
Originally Posted by Feng
(Post 2541240)
Spirit pilots ratify an industry trailing TA.
One poster points out that this drags down the negotiating environment for them and everyone else. Spirit pilots respond with “Was it your Mom (not me) or your Dad that didn't give you enough love...” “Clearly you were not breast fed as a child.” This is all coming together now. Your mom and I are coming together after a lovely seafood dinner. |
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 2541004)
To keep it simple, Delta pays 50 percent of your salary until 65 years old. They give 32 percent of disability payment into 401k (keeps retirement whole). Almost all pilots subsidize this with DPMA which keeps your pay whole for the first year on long term disability.
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
(Post 2541256)
Don’t even bother. “Yetifan” has a loooooong post history of being miserable. Hes just angry hes stuck in the right seat forever at Alaska.
Be careful with talking trash like that. A few short years ago you were a permanent FO at xjt with no future and were looking for any life line that was tossed your way even outside of the Airlines. I’m pretty sure you took the first job offered. I’m glad it worked out for you, I really am. Honest question here and I’m not trying to be a jerk, but how exactly is this TA raising the bar? Parts of it yes but as a whole it appears mediocre to me so I must be missing something. It seems you took some QOL hits in order to get higher rates. You got scope which is great and totally worth it in my opinion but the hourly rates still seem low for the first few years. I’m a VX/AS guy who is unfortunately now part of one of the most spineless pilots groups around and we just got our a$$ handed to us in arbitration so I’m not trying to act like I’m above any of you, I’m curious and trying to educate myself. |
Originally Posted by Feng
(Post 2541240)
Spirit pilots ratify an industry trailing TA.
One poster points out that this drags down the negotiating environment for them and everyone else. Spirit pilots respond with “Was it your Mom (not me) or your Dad that didn't give you enough love...” “Clearly you were not breast fed as a child.” This is all coming together now. |
Originally Posted by OCCP
(Post 2541360)
Be careful with talking trash like that. A few short years ago you were a permanent FO at xjt with no future and were looking for any life line that was tossed your way even outside of the Airlines. I’m pretty sure you took the first job offered. I’m glad it worked out for you, I really am.
Honest question here and I’m not trying to be a jerk, but how exactly is this TA raising the bar? Parts of it yes but as a whole it appears mediocre to me so I must be missing something. It seems you took some QOL hits in order to get higher rates. You got scope which is great and totally worth it in my opinion but the hourly rates still seem low for the first few years. I’m a VX/AS guy who is unfortunately now part of one of the most spineless pilots groups around and we just got our a$$ handed to us in arbitration so I’m not trying to act like I’m above any of you, I’m curious and trying to educate myself. |
TA Ratified.
Originally Posted by OCCP
(Post 2541360)
Be careful with talking trash like that. A few short years ago you were a permanent FO at xjt with no future and were looking for any life line that was tossed your way even outside of the Airlines. I’m pretty sure you took the first job offered. I’m glad it worked out for you, I really am.
Honest question here and I’m not trying to be a jerk, but how exactly is this TA raising the bar? Parts of it yes but as a whole it appears mediocre to me so I must be missing something. It seems you took some QOL hits in order to get higher rates. You got scope which is great and totally worth it in my opinion but the hourly rates still seem low for the first few years. I’m a VX/AS guy who is unfortunately now part of one of the most spineless pilots groups around and we just got our a$$ handed to us in arbitration so I’m not trying to act like I’m above any of you, I’m curious and trying to educate myself. This ta doesn’t raise the bar for anything, there isn’t one single item in it that’s “industry leading” only reason folks voted for this is because of the bonus they offered (IMO). I do feel for the guys at Frontier and JB as this won’t help them at all, considering we voted in basically JB rates *edit took out the part about the 4 days off Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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