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Originally Posted by Chimpy
(Post 2540130)
Well, before you cast stones, lets see what you guys do about your health insurance, your lack of 4 days off, your PS which your mgmt just basically took away, real LTD, Scope and your complete lack of RSV rules.
Not a ****ing match, just a reality that everything comes at a cost.......... Anyway, good luck, I hope you guys get a stellar Contract |
Originally Posted by Papa Bear
(Post 2540127)
Absolutely...As a B6 dude we are fighting our azzes off for better everything.
You essentially voted for our pay rates as of 2016 for the next 8 yrs and you made the company much more profitable with PBS.What’s done is done... Good luck in 2025! I’ll see how your NC and MEC handle the NMB. I’m thinking it will be a similar outcome to what NK had. I really hate dick measuring contests, each of us are in this occupation and at different airlines for a multitude of reasons. Although not perfect, NK gained lots in this contract. Largest percentage gain in pay ever under ALPA, no real disability to own occupation until 65, retained 4 days off between pairings, excellent health insurance still, consistent RAP’s and direct contribution to 401k. Could it have been better? Of course, it always can. I’ll be interested to see what B6 gets. I’ll also be supporting you at any ALPA events. |
Good to see we're already defending our compensation with our work rules. The more things change...
Just a short time ago we had guys arguing how this isn't a hobby and pay is more important than maintaining certain QOL items. We were talking about UAL+, we keep the operation afloat more than most OALs, we fly more pax than mainline 75s, etc. I'm having a really hard time coming down from that. Evidently most either never believed it or gave up from fatigue. Don't worry, you won't see me wearing a 30% lanyard. I'll be the guy updating his mainline app on the 17.5 hour layover at the BOS short stay. Ready to move on whether that call happens or not. |
Originally Posted by lowandslow
(Post 2540153)
Good to see we're already defending our compensation with our work rules. The more things change...
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Originally Posted by Conquistador27
(Post 2540148)
You may not be casting stones, but I am. Frontier and Jetblue better get united plus 20 and the best work rules in the industry or otherwise they would be bringing everyone else down. That how pattern bargaining works, right?
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Originally Posted by skytrails
(Post 2539585)
So how long until that aircraft order is announced now?
https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/...ew-contra.aspx |
Originally Posted by Chimpy
(Post 2540154)
Low, you can be as ****ed of as you want but to acknowledge ZERO gains is not doing anyone any good.
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Originally Posted by lowandslow
(Post 2540167)
Sorry added more to my post while you were responding. I know we made gains in some areas. Conceding PBS in a positive negotiating environment should have yielded more. Transition was a huge thorn in their side that too many conceded before we even got to the table. A couple of nagging items to include flying SF planes for a year without ever hearing what the remedy was.
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Originally Posted by lowandslow
(Post 2540153)
Good to see we're already defending our compensation with our work rules. The more things change...
Just a short time ago we had guys arguing how this isn't a hobby and pay is more important than maintaining certain QOL items. We were talking about UAL+, we keep the operation afloat more than most OALs, we fly more pax than mainline 75s, etc. I'm having a really hard time coming down from that. Evidently most either never believed it or gave up from fatigue. Don't worry, you won't see me wearing a 30% lanyard. I'll be the guy updating his mainline app on the 17.5 hour layover at the BOS short stay. Ready to move on whether that call happens or not. |
Originally Posted by Conquistador27
(Post 2540171)
Almost. You’d have to be on a 16hr44min layover to be at the short stay.
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