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-   -   TA Ratified. (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/spirit/111825-ta-ratified.html)

LloydBraun 02-28-2018 04:26 PM
Originally Posted by Feng (Post 2539786)
Just to reiterate, you blasted me for saying Spirit pilots will lose line bidding, transition, bunch of reserve stuff, 4 days off (essentially useless with PBS) AND won't get legacy rates.

This is precise what you got and y'all are jerking each other off.

Got it
For someone who does t work for Spirit you sure stick your nose on our forum an awful lot. Don’t you have some animals you can go torture.

Feng 02-28-2018 04:26 PM
Originally Posted by IwasInverted (Post 2539790)
Not sure why 4 days off is useless with Pbs, but what do I know, I’m just a pilot.
If you elect not to waive it, all your scheduling preferences will be predicated on building you a schedule worth (insert agreed upon hours) and having the 4 days off in between, all other preferences be damned.

I mean, I guess some people want no control over their schedule and all their care about is that 4 days off in between.

IwasInverted 02-28-2018 04:29 PM
Beats 2 on 1 off any day, worry about your own schedule while we enjoy ours.

Chimpy 02-28-2018 04:39 PM
Originally Posted by Feng (Post 2539786)
Just to reiterate, you blasted me for saying Spirit pilots will lose line bidding, transition, bunch of reserve stuff, 4 days off (essentially useless with PBS) AND won't get legacy rates.

This is precise what you got and y'all are jerking each other off.

Got it
Oh, ehhhh......Dunno what to say, sorry?

Feng 02-28-2018 04:55 PM
Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2539816)
Oh, ehhhh......Dunno what to say, sorry?
Just curious as to what happened to the: We're the most profitable airline with the largest margins thus we should be paid the most, industry standard contract at DOS, the legacies are our peers and we demand no less, discount airline/not discount pilots, it'll only increase our CASM by 2 cents!! Attrition is 200%!! We are not LOW TIER!

Was it the plan to demand an industry leading contract until signing an industry trailing one?

Just confused.

Chimpy 02-28-2018 05:04 PM
Originally Posted by Feng (Post 2539834)
Just curious as to what happened to the: We're the most profitable airline with the largest margins thus we should be paid the most, industry standard contract at DOS, the legacies are our peers and we demand no less, discount airline/not discount pilots, it'll only increase our CASM by 2 cents!! Attrition is 200%!! We are not LOW TIER!

Was it the plan to demand an industry leading contract until signing an industry trailing one?

Just confused.
Meh, you know how it is, lol. Look man. I get you dont like Spirit, or it’s pilots or whatever but most of us (at least 70%) are pretty happy right now. There are a lot of good things in the TA and a lot of reasons to be thankful. Wasnt that long ago I had a kid on the way and was stressing out over how to save money while making $35/hr at Expressjet as a 7th year F/O,...........

Anyway, time for us to move on.....

Beans 02-28-2018 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by Feng (Post 2539786)
Just to reiterate, you blasted me for saying Spirit pilots will lose line bidding, transition, bunch of reserve stuff, 4 days off (essentially useless with PBS) AND won't get legacy rates.

This is precise what you got and y'all are jerking each other off.

Got it
Bingo Feng!!

I said the same last year and the cheerleaders said no PBS or we strike. Then they said legacy rates for PBS or we strike. Then they just bent over!

Super EZ E 02-28-2018 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2539841)
Meh, you know how it is, lol. Look man. I get you dont like Spirit, or it’s pilots or whatever but most of us (at least 70%) are pretty happy right now. There are a lot of good things in the TA and a lot of reasons to be thankful. Wasnt that long ago I had a kid on the way and was stressing out over how to save money while making $35/hr at Expressjet as a 7th year F/O,...........

Anyway, time for us to move on.....
This is at the core of what's wrong. We clearly hired RJ guys that have been beat down and don't think they're worth anything. We should just make new hires pay for their A320 types. OMG!

Beans 02-28-2018 05:40 PM
Originally Posted by Feng (Post 2539834)
Just curious as to what happened to the: We're the most profitable airline with the largest margins thus we should be paid the most, industry standard contract at DOS, the legacies are our peers and we demand no less, discount airline/not discount pilots, it'll only increase our CASM by 2 cents!! Attrition is 200%!! We are not LOW TIER!

Was it the plan to demand an industry leading contract until signing an industry trailing one?

Just confused.
They are all talk at Spirit! They say there not low tier but you just proved to everyone you are low tier!

Total BS 02-28-2018 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Beans (Post 2539877)
All talk at Spirit! You say your not low tier but you just proved to everyone you are low tier!
TA ratified today.
Get your 30% lanyard so you can feel superior.
Try to humiliate yes voters on APC, but it won’t change anything.


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