Originally Posted by flyingpuma1 (Post 2541382)

This ta doesn’t raise the bar for anything, there isn’t one single item in it that’s “industry leading” only reason folks voted for this is because of the bonus they offered (IMO). I do feel for the guys at Frontier and JB as this won’t help them at all, considering we voted in basically JB rates

You are ill informed. No one voted yes to this because of the signing bonus. This was voted yes because this is the best we could get.
We were told by the NMB we will never get released to strike. The company never met with the union outside mediation. With what we did get, the company’s profitability will be well below the industry now and the NMB felt that this is as far as they wanted to go without negatively affecting the financial health of Spirit.
We got the largest increase in pay in a single contract cycle in ALPA history.
So I think the reason we voted yes is because if we didn’t, the NMB was going to ice us for an undetermined amount of time while they went on to Frontier, JB and railroads. Losing $5,000 a month,no scope, no DC, no LTD (own occupation) just to vote no is a very poor financial decision.
Most captains in the middle of the pack will have higher career earnings than going anywhere else at this point other than Delta.

Originally Posted by Gjn290 (Post 2546082)

Looks like we have at least one more month of paid transition conflicts.

Originally Posted by Flyondawall (Post 2545797)

Please just stop posting arguments for this thing. I'm moving on so I'd appreciate it if you do as well. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Flyondawall (Post 2546110)

You talking about B6 or SWA?

Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 2546200)

I’m at SWA.

Originally Posted by Flyondawall (Post 2546204)

Oh, no wonder the confusion. I just thought you were another B6 guy. My apologies.

Originally Posted by lowandslow (Post 2546153)

Um, ok. Didn’t realize you were forced to read these posts.

Originally Posted by a2cbus (Post 2546165)

And it looks like pay rates aren’t effective until March 2nd now....

Originally Posted by Flyondawall (Post 2546183)

Great response!

If I were here voicing my thoughts on how we were screwed (BTW-Of course it was voted in for the money it sure wasn't to get PBS) I'm pretty sure everyone would say "dude move on, let's work together and make things better."
Your repeating of the Yes voter's mantra of "NMB..., best we can do..." sucked before ratification and it sucks now so enjoy your bonus and your not quite industry standard pay and move on.

Originally Posted by a2cbus (Post 2546165)

And it looks like pay rates aren’t effective until March 2nd now....