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04-09-2018 | 08:19 AM
#211
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04-09-2018 | 08:22 AM
#212
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From: B737CA
You should look at the realistic numbers. For example, at Southwest, our plug captains are at 60% on master seniority list, and we operate a single type.
At legacies with multiple types, that number goes down significantly because a number of people would rather be widebody FO’s than reserve NB captains so that number gets distorted quite a bit. In the extreme case, Delta had first year Mad Dog captains. FedEx has first/second year 757 captains. 12-15 year upgrade at legacies or Southwest.... only by choice.
At legacies with multiple types, that number goes down significantly because a number of people would rather be widebody FO’s than reserve NB captains so that number gets distorted quite a bit. In the extreme case, Delta had first year Mad Dog captains. FedEx has first/second year 757 captains. 12-15 year upgrade at legacies or Southwest.... only by choice.
04-09-2018 | 08:44 AM
#214
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04-09-2018 | 09:35 AM
#215
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Thanks for the input, looks like I need to run the numbers again
04-10-2018 | 11:18 AM
#217
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From: 6th place
Leaving out the AA mainline RJ pilots the most junior NB CA at the end of 2017 was around 10,700 of 14,700, or 73% using your terminology. A newhire is 4000 attritions away from a NB CA upgrade in the most junior base which just the mandatory retirements cover in 5 years.
Thanks for the input, looks like I need to run the numbers again
Thanks for the input, looks like I need to run the numbers again
04-11-2018 | 11:03 AM
#218
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From: A320 CA
Who knows how long upgrade will be here in a few years? Or if we will even exist.
The decision is personal for every one of us. I bypassed a 3 year upgrade because I liked getting my first choice of line every month. And transition.
Even though I made it pretty clear that I was a No Voter, I'm still not leaving. This is a fine place to be for a career. It may not be as glamorous as wearing a hat and getting a lie flat deadhead, but it will take care of my family for another 20-ish years. (Let's hope) I for one am not willing to start over yet again.
The decision is personal for every one of us. I bypassed a 3 year upgrade because I liked getting my first choice of line every month. And transition.
Even though I made it pretty clear that I was a No Voter, I'm still not leaving. This is a fine place to be for a career. It may not be as glamorous as wearing a hat and getting a lie flat deadhead, but it will take care of my family for another 20-ish years. (Let's hope) I for one am not willing to start over yet again.
04-12-2018 | 07:57 AM
#220
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From: Citation, left seat
If you have no idea what they were before then why do you care about what they were? If you want to come here then I can see caring about what they are now but a compare and contrast is pointless.
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