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Originally Posted by Wayst
(Post 2627851)
The USERRA is not just for protection from current employer. The USERRA clearly states that an Employer cannot discriminate against and individual for their military affiliation during an initial hiring process. This is federal law.
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We have so many military pilots here, I was starting to think we only hire from the military.
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Originally Posted by Wayst
(Post 2626507)
Had a friend interview with Spirit recently. He is a military pilot and a part 121 pilot. He said the interview went great except the head of HR scrutinized him for being on military leave. He said she was very aggressive and annoyed that he would work for his 121 carrier and then go on military leave for a year. He said he explained that it wasn't meant to be for a year but he had been extended for circumstances out of his control and he was about to return to his 121 company. A few days later we was sent an email saying he did not receive the job. He is really bummed because he was really excited to work for Spirit.
I Understand that 121 carriers don't like guys to drop mil leave for extended periods of time, but is HR allowed to ask these questions during the interview? Does this sound like discrimination? Just like HR cannot ask a female if she has ever taken maturity leave or if she is planning on getting pregnant and taking maturity leave. What do you guys/gals think? |
So got an update.
My friend ran into a Spirit Captain recently that was there the day he interviewed. He said at the end of the day they reviewed all the applications and everyone on the team really liked my friend and wanted to hire him but Sandi (HR Manager) refused to hire him because he was currently on military leave and even though he would be off military orders before the class start date she thought he would take military leave soon after starting at Spirit. Despite anyones feelings about people taking military leave, the USERRA specifically states you can not discriminate during the initial hiring process for someones military status. So what Sandi did was 100% illegal. My friend was very upset and wanted to spend his career at Spirit. After the experience he has moved on and wants to work for a company that wants him to be there. Don't worry he not trying to file a complaint or sue, he is just disappointed in Spirit. He is a better man than me. I would have at least filed a complaint with the ESGR. If you work at Spirit and don't believe this story than call Sandi and ask her for yourself. |
Originally Posted by Wayst
(Post 2656138)
So got an update.
My friend ran into a Spirit Captain recently that was there the day he interviewed. He said at the end of the day they reviewed all the applications and everyone on the team really liked my friend and wanted to hire him but Sandi (HR Manager) refused to hire him because he was currently on military leave and even though he would be off military orders before the class start date she thought he would take military leave soon after starting at Spirit. Despite anyones feelings about people taking military leave, the USERRA specifically states you can not discriminate during the initial hiring process for someones military status. So what Sandi did was 100% illegal. My friend was very upset and wanted to spend his career at Spirit. After the experience he has moved on and wants to work for a company that wants him to be there. Don't worry he not trying to file a complaint or sue, he is just disappointed in Spirit. He is a better man than me. I would have at least filed a complaint with the ESGR. If you work at Spirit and don't believe this story than call Sandi and ask her for yourself. |
Originally Posted by Wayst
(Post 2656138)
So got an update.
My friend ran into a Spirit Captain recently that was there the day he interviewed. He said at the end of the day they reviewed all the applications and everyone on the team really liked my friend and wanted to hire him but Sandi (HR Manager) refused to hire him because he was currently on military leave and even though he would be off military orders before the class start date she thought he would take military leave soon after starting at Spirit. Despite anyones feelings about people taking military leave, the USERRA specifically states you can not discriminate during the initial hiring process for someones military status. So what Sandi did was 100% illegal. My friend was very upset and wanted to spend his career at Spirit. After the experience he has moved on and wants to work for a company that wants him to be there. Don't worry he not trying to file a complaint or sue, he is just disappointed in Spirit. He is a better man than me. I would have at least filed a complaint with the ESGR. If you work at Spirit and don't believe this story than call Sandi and ask her for yourself. |
Originally Posted by Wayst
(Post 2656138)
So got an update.
My friend ran into a Spirit Captain recently that was there the day he interviewed. He said at the end of the day they reviewed all the applications and everyone on the team really liked my friend and wanted to hire him but Sandi (HR Manager) refused to hire him because he was currently on military leave and even though he would be off military orders before the class start date she thought he would take military leave soon after starting at Spirit. Despite anyones feelings about people taking military leave, the USERRA specifically states you can not discriminate during the initial hiring process for someones military status. So what Sandi did was 100% illegal. My friend was very upset and wanted to spend his career at Spirit. After the experience he has moved on and wants to work for a company that wants him to be there. Don't worry he not trying to file a complaint or sue, he is just disappointed in Spirit. He is a better man than me. I would have at least filed a complaint with the ESGR. If you work at Spirit and don't believe this story than call Sandi and ask her for yourself. That’s quite a dangerous accusation to make of a lady who has hired countless military pilots over a pretty long career and has never had so much as one hiccup with discrimination accusations. Your boy couldn’t hack it... game over don’t get butt hurt about it and vent on a forum... Which by the way changes the outcome ZERO... I’m sure delta or JetBlue will gobble him up and he’ll have a great career there |
Originally Posted by Wayst
(Post 2656138)
So got an update.
My friend ran into a Spirit Captain recently that was there the day he interviewed. He said at the end of the day they reviewed all the applications and everyone on the team really liked my friend and wanted to hire him but Sandi (HR Manager) refused to hire him because he was currently on military leave and even though he would be off military orders before the class start date she thought he would take military leave soon after starting at Spirit. Despite anyones feelings about people taking military leave, the USERRA specifically states you can not discriminate during the initial hiring process for someones military status. So what Sandi did was 100% illegal. My friend was very upset and wanted to spend his career at Spirit. After the experience he has moved on and wants to work for a company that wants him to be there. Don't worry he not trying to file a complaint or sue, he is just disappointed in Spirit. He is a better man than me. I would have at least filed a complaint with the ESGR. If you work at Spirit and don't believe this story than call Sandi and ask her for yourself. |
I'm former Mil and have regional part 121 experience and I got a TBNT letter from Spirit. But to be fair on my psych eval I told them I like to microwave cats. So what now its not PC to microwave cats? Freaking HR runs hiring anyway. Bunch of liberal PC safe spacers.....they probably all have cats for pets. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by DelTacoBowl
(Post 2656488)
I'm former Mil and have regional part 121 experience and I got a TBNT letter from Spirit. But to be fair on my psych eval I told them I like to microwave cats. So what now its not PC to microwave cats? Freaking HR runs hiring anyway. Bunch of liberal PC safe spacers.....they probably all have cats for pets. :rolleyes:
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