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onedolla 09-16-2018 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by evanss9550 (Post 2675486)
The OBAP job fair was around 8/15. Nobody has come forward on any of the other forums about any calls that have gone out since after the job fair. I wonder if they are trying to get through a bunch of applicants and interviews that came through post contract but prior to the job fair? I had always been told that attending a "meet the chiefs" event was major bonus points towards getting a call, and not a single person that attended OBAP has come forward about one yet. :confused:

maybe they don't use the forums.

Super EZ E 09-16-2018 05:24 PM

Their is a chance no one was hired from the job fair. The new contract has solved a lot of hiring issues. Things have clearly changed. Funny how a new contract fixed a lot of hiring and staffing issues. :eek:

evanss9550 09-17-2018 08:05 AM

I asked this question on another thread that I created, but it was hijacked by everyone talking about training difficulty...If I have been passed up at this point, what should I do to become more competitive:

Part 135 PIC or Part 121 SIC? I'm currently PIC in a Challenger, Part 91 and not adding to the logbook very fast.

3370 TT
1780 TPIC
3 Types
Degree is in progress and will be done by May 19

If I have realistic goals in the airlines, I'm going to have to make a change in the near future. Thoughts?

lowandslow 09-17-2018 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by evanss9550 (Post 2675794)
I asked this question on another thread that I created, but it was hijacked by everyone talking about training difficulty...If I have been passed up at this point, what should I do to become more competitive:

Part 135 PIC or Part 121 SIC? I'm currently PIC in a Challenger, Part 91 and not adding to the logbook very fast.

3370 TT
1780 TPIC
3 Types
Degree is in progress and will be done by May 19

If I have realistic goals in the airlines, I'm going to have to make a change in the near future. Thoughts?

Honestly nothing glares out as not competitive to me. We hire plenty of no degree, no 135, no 121. Only thing I'm not sure about is all 3 boxes unchecked. Many newer hires I fly with were regional FOs for up to a couple years and some don't have degrees. We have hired quite a few 91k people in the last year (though they also fly 135). Your decision will have to be yours. Nobody can tell you to leave a good corporate job to fly crappy charter or for a regional to which you may have to commute. You could get stuck there. Probably the reason you're not getting the answer you're looking for. There are a lot of (overly?) qualified people with job fairs and recs not getting interviews.

evanss9550 09-17-2018 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by lowandslow (Post 2675804)
Honestly nothing glares out as not competitive to me. We hire plenty of no degree, no 135, no 121. Only thing I'm not sure about is all 3 boxes unchecked. Many newer hires I fly with were regional FOs for up to a couple years and some don't have degrees. We have hired quite a few 91k people in the last year (though they also fly 135). Your decision will have to be yours. Nobody can tell you to leave a good corporate job to fly crappy charter or for a regional to which you may have to commute. You could get stuck there. Probably the reason you're not getting the answer you're looking for. There are a lot of (overly?) qualified people with job fairs and recs not getting interviews.

Thanks for the honest response.

Lincoln Osiris 09-17-2018 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by evanss9550 (Post 2675943)
Thanks for the honest response.

I'll chime in on this as well just as a pure opinion standpoint. Finish that degree, get that TT up to maybe 4k and you will be good to go for sure. At this point I don't think I would bother with the 121 stuff other than going to a major airline. Avoid the regionals at all costs. After that degree is done hit a job fair every once in a while and you will be looking good man!

deltajuliet 10-02-2018 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by evanss9550 (Post 2674391)
I'm convinced that nobody has gotten a call, let alone an interview, since before the first week of August. Seems like its been really quiet on the hiring front on all of the networks that I've been lurking around.

Feels that way. Thought hiring would really ramp up after summer, but at least on APC it's been crickets.

Tjamaica 10-02-2018 11:00 AM

There might be a small number of people in the hiring pool due to smaller classes through August. Hiring is ramped back up to 40 a month right now. Hang in there, I'd guess they should be getting to you guys soon

Super EZ E 10-02-2018 11:59 AM

I don't think your info about 40 a month is good. Try 10 in Dec. We're fat on crews till these Aircraft show up. The last vacancy bid was showing 28 FO's. Showing 10,10, and 8. Only 6 Captains.

Tjamaica 10-02-2018 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2684676)
I don't think your info about 40 a month is good. Try 10 in Dec. We're fat on crews till these Aircraft show up. The last vacancy bid was showing 28 FO's. Showing 10,10, and 8. Only 6 Captains.

40 for August. 40 for September. 28 for October. 13 airplanes coming 4Q '18-1Q'19. Thats what I see. Do you have more info?


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