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elmetal 11-27-2018 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by Acehole (Post 2714627)
I’m pretty sure when FLL closes the north runway, the flights out of there will slow to a crawl...
I bet the re surface project had a lot to do with the opening of MCO as a base.

Oh I see, so they decided to open an entire base because another base would be slightly inconvenienced for less than 12 months.............





Okie dokie bud, I guess nothing to do with the 30+ departures out of MCO and the 60+ rooms we pay for there every night.

Ducttape 11-27-2018 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2714197)
they will keep both bases for sure. to say that ACY will close if BWI opens completely overlooks the fact that MCO didn't open by cannibalizing or closing FLL at all.

Even IF they wanted to close ACY for a BWI base, they wouldn't announce the ACY closure until they staff the BWI base. Why be on the hook for all the involuntary displacement costs of announcing ACY closing, when they could "reduce ACY" with voluntary vacancies to BWI, and then when ACY doesn't have any more willing participants, announce ACY is closing and only take the hit on those involuntarily moving.

In the end, I dont think they open BWI or close ACY, for a while. Seems their goal right now is to staff MCO with 100% voluntary vacancies, with the help of vacancy bids, reductions in other bases without backfills, and PBS implementation here soon.

If Bendo has to pay to move a pilot, he loses in his mind.

flyboyike 11-27-2018 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Ducttape (Post 2714748)

If Bendo has to pay to move a pilot, he loses in his mind.

Back in another life and at another airline, he paid to move and train me three times in one year.

ecam 11-27-2018 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2709352)
A hand full of big bases is best for qol as opposed to a bunch of small ones. How much swapping to you think Allegiant pilots do? Basically zero. Like I tell my kids, you get what you get and you don’t get upset. Who wants that?

What are you basing this opinion on? We have swap boards and people swap constantly. We even have ho's who will commute across the country and get a hotel+rental car just to pick up a sweet trip out of base.

beech_nut 11-27-2018 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by ecam (Post 2714781)
What are you basing this opinion on? We have swap boards and people swap constantly. We even have ho's who will commute across the country and get a hotel+rental car just to pick up a sweet trip out of base.




Don't call people who pick up open time trips Ho's :) Don't want to get the TRO opened again, or a new lawsuit. Management is watching :)

ecam 11-27-2018 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by beech_nut (Post 2714788)
Don't call people who pick up open time trips Ho's :) Don't want to get the TRO opened again, or a new lawsuit. Management is watching :)

Lol. At allegiant we aren't negotiating and won't be for many years. And people who travel from Florida to Arizona to pick up a 200% 4 leg day trip are definitely hoes.

FNGFO 11-27-2018 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Acehole (Post 2714627)
I’m pretty sure when FLL closes the north runway, the flights out of there will slow to a crawl...
I bet the re surface project had a lot to do with the opening of MCO as a base.

25%. That how much the airport authority asked each airline to reduce its traffic by. So definitely slowed. But to a crawl? Hardly.

Qotsaautopilot 11-27-2018 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by ecam (Post 2714781)
What are you basing this opinion on? We have swap boards and people swap constantly. We even have ho's who will commute across the country and get a hotel+rental car just to pick up a sweet trip out of base.

Out of base is the key there. With a bunch of small bases you lose all flexibility in base. ACY is small and there is very little to swap with usually. Every time we open a new base we dilute the existing bases and lower flexibility as well as slow seniority movement in base. A handful of big bases throughout the country is best. A bunch of mini bases is terrible.

TrojanCMH 11-27-2018 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2714859)
Out of base is the key there. With a bunch of small bases you lose all flexibility in base. ACY is small and there is very little to swap with usually. Every time we open a new base we dilute the existing bases and lower flexibility as well as slow seniority movement in base. A handful of big bases throughout the country is best. A bunch of mini bases is terrible.



You’d be singing a different tune if you happened to live in one of these “mini bases” and were stuck commuting. I can see both sides of the argument though. Also who says that any of the new bases are going to be small, MCO could very well be bigger than Vegas or DFW when it’s all said and done. Same for BWI if that ever happens.


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flyingpuma1 11-27-2018 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2714859)
Every time we open a new base we dilute the existing bases and lower flexibility as well as slow seniority movement in base. A handful of big bases throughout the country is best. A bunch of mini bases is terrible.

I'm curious as to how its going to lower my flexibility when I don't have any right now anyway?


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