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galleycafe 11-27-2018 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by ecam (Post 2714792)
Lol. At allegiant we aren't negotiating and won't be for many years. And people who travel from Florida to Arizona to pick up a 200% 4 leg day trip are definitely hoes.

Where's my corner and how far back do you like my legs?

Plane Coffee

ecam 11-27-2018 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2714859)
Out of base is the key there. With a bunch of small bases you lose all flexibility in base. ACY is small and there is very little to swap with usually. Every time we open a new base we dilute the existing bases and lower flexibility as well as slow seniority movement in base. A handful of big bases throughout the country is best. A bunch of mini bases is terrible.

No, actually we post swap and trade trips constantly here. Even in the tiny bases. It's actually pretty easy to swap day trips and get a day off or am/pm if something comes up.

ecam 11-27-2018 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by galleycafe (Post 2714961)
Where's my corner and how far back do you like my legs?

Plane Coffee

:D

filler…..

Acehole 11-27-2018 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2714718)
Oh I see, so they decided to open an entire base because another base would be slightly inconvenienced for less than 12 months.............





Okie dokie bud, I guess nothing to do with the 30+ departures out of MCO and the 60+ rooms we pay for there every night.

Oh fill me full of your great wisdom from Skywest. You’ve been here how long??
Yeah....
Thought so.

elmetal 11-27-2018 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Acehole (Post 2715097)
Oh fill me full of your great wisdom from Skywest. You’ve been here how long??
Yeah....
Thought so.

Can't attack the argument so you attack the person?

Google Ad hominem.

Acehole 11-27-2018 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2715099)
Can't attack the argument so you attack the person?

Google Ad hominem.

WTF is google?


Point is...
Some of us have seen this game played out before..
Some “phuckry” is afoot.
Trust me.

elmetal 11-27-2018 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Acehole (Post 2715103)
WTF is google?


Point is...
Some of us have seen this game played out before..
Some “phuckry” is afoot.
Trust me.

I don't disagree at all about that.

Just because I haven't been here until recently doesn't mean I'm new to this whole charade we call the industry

Qotsaautopilot 11-27-2018 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by ecam (Post 2714977)
No, actually we post swap and trade trips constantly here. Even in the tiny bases. It's actually pretty easy to swap day trips and get a day off or am/pm if something comes up.

Swapping day trip between each other is much different than “swapping” (flica speak for trading with open-time) a mixed line when there is little to no open time because all the flying is spread out to a bunch of mini bases.

Macjet 11-27-2018 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by flyingpuma1 (Post 2714881)
I'm curious as to how its going to lower my flexibility when I don't have any right now anyway?

You want people leaving that are ahead of you (retirements, carrier changes, fleet, or base) and people being added below you. It doesn't matter if we hire another 10,000 pilots junior to you unless they're in the same fleet, seat, and base. Your relative position will stagnate, and your flexibility, if all the new hires were to go BWI in an A220.

symbian simian 11-27-2018 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 2715151)
You want people leaving that are ahead of you (retirements, carrier changes, fleet, or base) and people being added below you. It doesn't matter if we hire another 10,000 pilots junior to you unless they're in the same fleet, seat, and base. Your relative position will stagnate, and your flexibility, if all the new hires were to go BWI in an A220.

Or all people above you could bid BWI A220 and those 10K newhires would end up underneath you....
At NK and WN upgrade is at 55%, except for a few holdouts. At all the legacy carriers there is 20 long haul FOs, and now 2 year captains, as long as you don't mind sitting reserve in EWR+JFK+LGA. I think having more types and more bases gives people more options.


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