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Old 10-01-2019 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FNGFO
I don’t think we were running 8-900 pilots lean. Something is cooking, and it’s not the delivery of 20 some odd planes next year.
I second this.... we ran lean. But not so lean to justify such an explosive change in hiring. Also, why type a bunch of pilots in the 320 if it is not gonna be 320’s or at least mostly 320’s? Just my two cents...
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Old 10-01-2019 | 01:50 PM
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I second this.... we ran lean. But not so lean to justify such an explosive change in hiring. Also, why type a bunch of pilots in the 320 if it is not gonna be 320’s or at least mostly 320’s? Just my two cents...
Most likely a concurrent new aircraft order or we scavenged a bunch of airframes off of <insert defunct airline here>.

Black helicopter angle involves gently used or undelivered Max’s for a fleet swap, or they’re getting crewing ratios up to snuff for M and A.
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Old 10-01-2019 | 02:48 PM
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Do we know if the current hiring/upgrade numbers will continue past Q1 or Q2 2020? Perhaps they will slow after a few months.
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Old 10-01-2019 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GWY320
Do we know if the current hiring/upgrade numbers will continue past Q1 or Q2 2020? Perhaps they will slow after a few months.
They’re talking about it like it’s open ended.
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Old 10-01-2019 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GrillMaster
I second this.... we ran lean. But not so lean to justify such an explosive change in hiring. Also, why type a bunch of pilots in the 320 if it is not gonna be 320’s or at least mostly 320’s? Just my two cents...
Just playing devils advocate, but if we did get a new type
1) there’s a lot of lead time for an entry into service program, training instructors etc.
2) we wouldn’t get them all at once, even if it were a complete fleet replacement we would still be flying the bus for several years to come
3) obviously there would be a bid, new hire pilots wouldn’t automatically be typed in the new plane unless it went junior, and I’m sure there would be seat locks if the bus were to be phased out

Not saying you’re wrong about what will happen fleet-wise, but I don’t think what this wave of new hires are being trained on is the indicator.
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Old 10-01-2019 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
Just playing devils advocate, but if we did get a new type
1) there’s a lot of lead time for an entry into service program, training instructors etc.
2) we wouldn’t get them all at once, even if it were a complete fleet replacement we would still be flying the bus for several years to come
3) obviously there would be a bid, new hire pilots wouldn’t automatically be typed in the new plane unless it went junior, and I’m sure there would be seat locks if the bus were to be phased out

Not saying you’re wrong about what will happen fleet-wise, but I don’t think what this wave of new hires are being trained on is the indicator.
True. The vast majority haven’t been hired yet. Wish they’d get on with the reveal/announcement that they keep pushing off for another quarter.
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Old 10-01-2019 | 04:26 PM
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They want bodies fast, and fleet swaps don't happen fast, new type additions don't happen fast, and deliveries don't happen fast (unless the order was placed nearly 2 years ago by someone else).
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Old 10-01-2019 | 04:34 PM
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More then likely we are striking deals for more second hand airbuses.
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Old 10-01-2019 | 04:43 PM
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I would agree, otherwise they'd be hiring for a pool, not pumping them through ASAP.
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Old 10-01-2019 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GWY320
Do we know if the current hiring/upgrade numbers will continue past Q1 or Q2 2020? Perhaps they will slow after a few months.


I suspect they will slow after the new year (just my guess) again this hiring wave is a knee jerk reaction to being understaffed this spring/summer. I’d love to be wrong (I’d be happy to move up the seniority list) but I’m also realistic and haven’t drank Any kool-aid.


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