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LR45DRIVER 01-21-2019 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by groundspoiler (Post 2747260)
This is all great but on my last overnight in ATL, the van driver didn't even recognize my FO as a pilot being dressed in his Northface jacket with his bright Blue " Dickies" pants. Seems so many pilots have no consideration of looking professional. I know, go work for Delta, but take some pride in your appearance. And let the haters begin.

Spot on. Saw a guy wearing black pants the other day too. Stop looking unprofessional. Dark navy pants are not that hard to find....or at least navy.

gatorbird 01-21-2019 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2747305)
If you can afford it for the pilots at 18 months, you can afford it for the new hires. Stop making excuses for not giving a free uniform to the most poorly paid pilots on OUR property.

I’m not making excuses. But just because Ted/Fred/whoever is in the absentee CEO role doesn’t care doesn’t give us carte blanche to lessen the profession and look like a bunch of disorganized boobs. If someone can’t afford a couple hundred bucks for a uniform change then maybe now’s not the time for a job change.

gatorbird 01-21-2019 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Flightcap (Post 2747301)
Paid single occupancy hotel room. Paid uniforms. Paid luggage. Per diem for all training not at HQ. $400/week stipend for first four weeks, then minimum guarantee. Positive space flights home for Thanksgiving holiday. Oh and as far as gas, commuters got cost of parking in our base or $30/month, whichever was greater, towards cost of parking at ANY one airport of our choice.

At a regional. It's not the same industry it used to be.

Sounds great! Why’d you leave?

Pgus 01-21-2019 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by gatorbird (Post 2747337)
Sounds great! Why’d you leave?

He/she is probably giving you an example of how “we” as pilots could improve certain aspects in the next contract. No need to get defensive “brah”. ;)

gatorbird 01-21-2019 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Pgus (Post 2747344)
He/she is probably giving you an example of how “we” as pilots could improve certain aspects in the next contract. No need to get defensive “brah”. ;)

Which is exactly my point. If things are so great in the regional world, why are 90% of regional pilots trying to GTFO? Sounds to me like they saved the china teacups while the ship sank around them. Good for them.

I’m not going to defend our company or our union for the lack of a compensated uniform or lack of a uniform professional standard. Of course I’d like to see NK foot the bill for a QUALITY product (I’ve color/style matched for years rather than use the garbage the vendors provided). But yes, I think we should each be individually compelled to wear the uniform as asked and as set forth in company policy. Call it a professional standard, pride in your profession, whatever. But that’s just me and it sounds like I’m in the minority and just getting old and grumpy. So carry on, wear whatever you guys want and continue to blame someone else for your problems. Entitlement check’s in the mail, same envelope as the profit sharing one.

TrojanCMH 01-21-2019 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by gatorbird (Post 2747356)
Which is exactly my point. If things are so great in the regional world, why are 90% of regional pilots trying to GTFO? Sounds to me like they saved the china teacups while the ship sank around them. Good for them.



I’m not going to defend our company or our union for the lack of a compensated uniform or lack of a uniform professional standard. Of course I’d like to see NK foot the bill for a QUALITY product (I’ve color/style matched for years rather than use the garbage the vendors provided). But yes, I think we should each be individually compelled to wear the uniform as asked and as set forth in company policy. Call it a professional standard, pride in your profession, whatever. But that’s just me and it sounds like I’m in the minority and just getting old and grumpy. So carry on, wear whatever you guys want and continue to blame someone else for your problems. Entitlement check’s in the mail, same envelope as the profit sharing one.



I think he’s saying that even at the terrible regionals they throw new hires a bone with free uniforms. Maybe it’s something we try and get next negotiations cycle.


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gatorbird 01-21-2019 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 2747362)
I think he’s saying that even at the terrible regionals they throw new hires a bone with free uniforms. Maybe it’s something we try and get next negotiations cycle.


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So look like **** for the next 4-7 years? Great plan.

TrojanCMH 01-21-2019 01:39 PM

What’s with the sweaters?
 

Originally Posted by gatorbird (Post 2747369)
So look like **** for the next 4-7 years? Great plan.



And yet you think complaining on an anonymous message board is a good plan. Got it there gator. If you’re so worried about how we all look then start calling pro standards every time you see a guy who isn’t in uniform compliance. I’m sure you’ll make lots of friends that way.


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lowandslow 01-21-2019 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 2747392)
And yet you think complaining on an anonymous message board is a good plan. Got it there gator. If you’re so worried about how we all look then start calling pro standards every time you see a guy who isn’t in uniform compliance. I’m sure you’ll make lots of friends that way.


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Please don’t follow this advice.
Pro standards is NOT uniform police. It’s the company’s responsibility. One they don’t seem to care about. If you want to narc about uniforms (or hair) call the chief pilot.

lowandslow 01-21-2019 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 2747362)
...Maybe it’s something we try and get next negotiations cycle.


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Hahahahahaha. Right behind block or better by leg, min calendar, better training pay...But don’t worry we’ll be working on a JCBA before then.


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