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flyjbh 01-22-2019 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2748080)
The official winter uniform is the blazer or the leather jacket. There is not an approved trench coat at spirit. The leather is payroll deducted at $25 and they reimburse you for it at 36mo. Really no reason we all shouldn’t have it unless you’re partial to the blazer only. It’s not the most fashionable jacket for being out on the town but neither is my pilot shirt so I don’t wear either.



I have the leather jacket, it’s good but sometimes not enough. When I completed training, I was handed one set of epaulets and told to find some navy pants. That type of approach to uniforms is why there is so much “individualism “


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galleycafe 01-22-2019 08:17 PM

You got epaulettes?!?! Lucky dog.

After I finished training, they told me they were out. Oh yeah, and "Welcome to Spirit!"

I'm too fat for the leather.

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flyingpuma1 01-23-2019 12:50 AM

What’s with the sweaters?
 

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2748082)
This must be bait. A force to be reckoned with? We litterally have the second worst contract in the business and I’m sure some frontier pilots might argue the worst.



This ^^^^ Also they were out of epaulets for 2 months when I upgraded.


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WhiteMorpheus 01-23-2019 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2748082)
This must be bait. A force to be reckoned with? We litterally have the second worst contract in the business and I’m sure some frontier pilots might argue the worst.

Which business would that be...

I'm sitting here on a bankruptcy/merger contract and LOA from 2013 (ammendable in 2023) that caps FO pay at year 4 and CA at year 10. I get a 50% match on 401(k) contributions up to 2% of my gross earnings (1% in matching).

Yes, I'm at a regional, but yes, we're part of "the business." Also, I'm pretty sure neither Allegiant, nor Sun Country's contract is any better, if you want to take the small slice of the industry where Spirit sits.

If you only want to compare to FedEx, UPS, AA, Delta, United, Alaska, JetBlue, Frontier, and Southwest, then maybe you're right.

BugsBunny 01-23-2019 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by LloydBraun (Post 2747082)
Yep.
Besides fleece lined NorthFace is best combo of warmth for walkarounds in MSP, ORD, DTW, BOS with out weighing 20lbs and no place to put it on next legs in FLL, SJU, PHX etc. and not wearing the bomber at the hotel either. I do wear my blazer as long as I can but eventually during the winter the NorthFace comes out. I do polish my shoes, iron my shirts(no wings) , have my pants pressed.
And when I'm in a 319 that wont stay above freezing on a 4 hour flight the NorthFace is perfect for something to just throw on. Sorry to the haters but just too big a gap between the blazer and the bomber. Not suffering because i work for a company without enough innovation to have a approved sweater or mid weight jacket.




A jacket with some warmth for the walk to/from the airport, getting to hotel, walk arounds and general warmth on the road to prevent getting sick is a good idea. The blazer obviously does not accomplish this, nor does the super overweight fighter pilot wanna be jacket that costs hundreds of dollars. Two viable solutions are a NICE fleece of some kind with a Spirit logo or the professional looking waterproof trench coat that has a zip in liner, it also allows room for you to wear your blazer underneath and the jacket folds up nice and compactly. For those of you who do not want to wear it out on the road for whatever reason? Just bring a fleece. I believe all three: a fleece, blazer and trench coat jacket should be the uniform. That way we can all be in approved uniforms without freezing our butts off or lugging around a super heavy, ugly leather jacket.

Tjamaica 01-23-2019 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus (Post 2748249)
Which business would that be...

I'm sitting here on a bankruptcy/merger contract and LOA from 2013 (ammendable in 2023) that caps FO pay at year 4 and CA at year 10. I get a 50% match on 401(k) contributions up to 2% of my gross earnings (1% in matching).

Yes, I'm at a regional, but yes, we're part of "the business." Also, I'm pretty sure neither Allegiant, nor Sun Country's contract is any better, if you want to take the small slice of the industry where Spirit sits.

If you only want to compare to FedEx, UPS, AA, Delta, United, Alaska, JetBlue, Frontier, and Southwest, then maybe you're right.

When comparing contracts, Majors are not compared to Regionals. Apples to Oranges...

Macjet 01-23-2019 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by BugsBunny (Post 2748326)
A jacket with some warmth for the walk to/from the airport, getting to hotel, walk arounds and general warmth on the road to prevent getting sick is a good idea. The blazer obviously does not accomplish this, nor does the super overweight fighter pilot wanna be jacket that costs hundreds of dollars. Two viable solutions are a NICE fleece of some kind with a Spirit logo or the professional looking waterproof trench coat that has a zip in liner, it also allows room for you to wear your blazer underneath and the jacket folds up nice and compactly. For those of you who do not want to wear it out on the road for whatever reason? Just bring a fleece. I believe all three: a fleece, blazer and trench coat jacket should be the uniform. That way we can all be in approved uniforms without freezing our butts off or lugging around a super heavy, ugly leather jacket.

Viruses cause illness and, aside from hypothermia, cold temps do not.

Feng 01-23-2019 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Tjamaica (Post 2748327)
When comparing contracts, Majors are not compared to Regionals. Apples to Oranges...

By that argument ULCC are not to be compared with LCC and legacies.

3inthegreen 01-23-2019 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus (Post 2748249)
Which business would that be...

I'm sitting here on a bankruptcy/merger contract and LOA from 2013 (ammendable in 2023) that caps FO pay at year 4 and CA at year 10. I get a 50% match on 401(k) contributions up to 2% of my gross earnings (1% in matching).

Yes, I'm at a regional, but yes, we're part of "the business." Also, I'm pretty sure neither Allegiant, nor Sun Country's contract is any better, if you want to take the small slice of the industry where Spirit sits.

If you only want to compare to FedEx, UPS, AA, Delta, United, Alaska, JetBlue, Frontier, and Southwest, then maybe you're right.


Allegiant has profit sharing. Don’t insult them like that.

beverage 01-23-2019 09:41 AM

The change to black and the Aviator Karbon will fix everything. I'm not even being sarcastic for once.


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