What’s with the sweaters?
01-23-2019 | 03:23 PM
#81
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We all need a career, that’s the point of working numskull. Glad to see that we’re hiring the best and brightest. This level of thinking explains why we can’t even dress ourselves in the morning.
01-23-2019 | 04:09 PM
#83
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Not drama, It’s a matter of respect for the profession. The guys hired in the last 5 or so years are the root of evil. We have strayed so far from the principles of this company. This current group wouldn’t survive a day, the way things use to be.We were respected within the industry and looked up to.
01-23-2019 | 05:21 PM
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Which business would that be...
I'm sitting here on a bankruptcy/merger contract and LOA from 2013 (ammendable in 2023) that caps FO pay at year 4 and CA at year 10. I get a 50% match on 401(k) contributions up to 2% of my gross earnings (1% in matching).
Yes, I'm at a regional, but yes, we're part of "the business." Also, I'm pretty sure neither Allegiant, nor Sun Country's contract is any better, if you want to take the small slice of the industry where Spirit sits.
If you only want to compare to FedEx, UPS, AA, Delta, United, Alaska, JetBlue, Frontier, and Southwest, then maybe you're right.
I'm sitting here on a bankruptcy/merger contract and LOA from 2013 (ammendable in 2023) that caps FO pay at year 4 and CA at year 10. I get a 50% match on 401(k) contributions up to 2% of my gross earnings (1% in matching).
Yes, I'm at a regional, but yes, we're part of "the business." Also, I'm pretty sure neither Allegiant, nor Sun Country's contract is any better, if you want to take the small slice of the industry where Spirit sits.
If you only want to compare to FedEx, UPS, AA, Delta, United, Alaska, JetBlue, Frontier, and Southwest, then maybe you're right.
As for the state of regional airline pay, it sucks and it shouldn’t. The scope shouldn’t have ever been given in the first place and toss in 2008 and age 65 most of us lived there for much longer than we ever thought we would.
As for PSA, I still distinctly remember the day when it seemed like those of us at the regionals were actually starting to stand up and say enough is enough to the race to the bottom and vote down contracts even with the promise of new planes. Then PSA came from left field and voted in the biggest piece concessionary garbage on the promise getting airplanes. It absolutely screwed everyone so I don’t have any sympathy. You reap what you sow. Just like we at Spirit have to live with what we voted for. Down the road a flow to AA happened for PSA so you have that going for you and you’ll be at a legacy one day and making more than Spirit pilots.
01-23-2019 | 07:11 PM
#85
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01-23-2019 | 08:04 PM
#86
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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard
I am going to go with:
Continental, US Airways, America West, Airtran, and Virgin America.
How did I do?
01-23-2019 | 09:51 PM
#87
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Are you out of your mind!?!? Have some class and pride in your work. This isn’t the regionals anymore. Our pilots look like bums and you’re over here on the sidelines calling plays that ensure we lose.You want to be paid like a real pilot? Then I suggest you start acting like it. You’re probably the same guy who smokes a vape while he does his walk around. Pathetic!
You know how else we could get our pay inline with our peers? By not voting in a company cost savings, POS contract.
01-24-2019 | 06:23 AM
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