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Old 03-15-2019 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Where did this 300 tails and PBS come from? As far as I know it was made up on here. Airlines smaller than us have PBS so I doubt it only has efficiency at 300 planes. Not to mention, airlines with multiple fleets are basically airlines within airlines and they use pbs on fleets with less than 300 tails. I’d bet every fleet at United except the 737 has less than 300
I was kinda wondering the same thing.
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Old 03-16-2019 | 07:04 AM
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I’ve heard in several places. It’s possible that it’s all emanating from APC, but that seems unlikely.

I’m not sure subfleets matter to PBS. It matters for seniority to those in the various fleets, but the computer is simply tasked with crewing all the tails as efficiently as possible. So perhaps you need 300 total tails worth of savings created by crew being scheduled by PBS to offset the cost of running the system.

But that’s just reaching elbow deep.
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Old 03-16-2019 | 07:25 AM
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Many single fleet regionals run PBS with less than 300 planes

Heck, XJT management wanted PBS so bad and rescheduling favored management even more than ours does here as well as transition language. Even at the peak the fleet was only 274 planes. I’ve got to assume that this 300 plane rumor is complete poppycock and there are efficiencies gained. Enough to pay for the new rigs after we already gave them transition, training, rescheduling, and most rsv drops for free? That’s the question.

The rigs aren’t even earth shattering. They are slightly below industry standard even. This management just wants to keep us low tier as long as possible. I thought we made our bed and they would be satisfied for for another five years of cost savings and stall for another three in negotiations. To be playing these games only a year in to a bottom industry contract that already saves them huge is just low brow.
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Old 03-16-2019 | 08:11 AM
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Old 03-16-2019 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Many single fleet regionals run PBS with less than 300 planes

Heck, XJT management wanted PBS so bad and rescheduling favored management even more than ours does here as well as transition language. Even at the peak the fleet was only 274 planes. I’ve got to assume that this 300 plane rumor is complete poppycock and there are efficiencies gained. Enough to pay for the new rigs after we already gave them transition, training, rescheduling, and most rsv drops for free? That’s the question.

The rigs aren’t even earth shattering. They are slightly below industry standard even. This management just wants to keep us low tier as long as possible. I thought we made our bed and they would be satisfied for for another five years of cost savings and stall for another three in negotiations. To be playing these games only a year in to a bottom industry contract that already saves them huge is just low brow.
Was this posted between bike riding and lunch with the wife or general interneting?
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Old 03-16-2019 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NoCheesePlates
Was this posted between bike riding and lunch with the wife or general interneting?
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Old 03-16-2019 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Many single fleet regionals run PBS with less than 300 planes

Heck, XJT management wanted PBS so bad and rescheduling favored management even more than ours does here as well as transition language. Even at the peak the fleet was only 274 planes. I’ve got to assume that this 300 plane rumor is complete poppycock and there are efficiencies gained. Enough to pay for the new rigs after we already gave them transition, training, rescheduling, and most rsv drops for free? That’s the question.

The rigs aren’t even earth shattering. They are slightly below industry standard even. This management just wants to keep us low tier as long as possible. I thought we made our bed and they would be satisfied for for another five years of cost savings and stall for another three in negotiations. To be playing these games only a year in to a bottom industry contract that already saves them huge is just low brow.
Regionals do out and back. Hub and spoke flying. We don’t do that. We are point to point. That COULD be why spirit won’t reap the supposed efficiencies til 300 planes.
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Old 03-16-2019 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
Regionals do out and back. Hub and spoke flying. We don’t do that. We are point to point. That COULD be why spirit won’t reap the supposed efficiencies til 300 planes.
Not all regionals do out and backs. The two regionals I worked for, at least doing delta flying, was a more “see the network sort of schedule.
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Old 03-17-2019 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FNGFO
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Never underestimate the enemy. Bendo is smarter than that. Dollars to donuts, this delayed implementation was a planned strategy, not a mistake. Imagine the additional cost savings the company will enjoy during this delay, at no cost to the company. This guy has no problem lying to our faces then doing something completely different.
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Old 03-17-2019 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
Never underestimate the enemy. Bendo is smarter than that. Dollars to donuts, this delayed implementation was a planned strategy, not a mistake. Imagine the additional cost savings the company will enjoy during this delay, at no cost to the company. This guy has no problem lying to our faces then doing something completely different.
Plain and simple no he's not. He never ran a cost model on PBS verses Line bidding with the new rigs. I asked the Union if they did and the answer was no. Funny neither side wanted to spend the time or money on this topic. Yuri told him we would save money on PBS and that was taken at face value. That's the origin of this mess.
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