Average time to upgrade at Spirit?
03-09-2019, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
I’d commute or move to NY if it meant an extra $150k plus 16% of that plus profit sharing on it as well. It’s not like our new upgrades at spirit can get any base they want either.
Living there wouldn’t be bad, but be ready to pay up!! Nice places aren’t cheap.
03-09-2019, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
I’m sure they were going jr but I’d take the upgrade and commute too.
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03-09-2019, 09:40 AM
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Average time to upgrade at Spirit?
Originally Posted by Tranquility
Have you ever been based in LGA or JFK??
Living there wouldn’t be bad, but be ready to pay up!! Nice places aren’t cheap.
Living there wouldn’t be bad, but be ready to pay up!! Nice places aren’t cheap.
No doubt commuting sucks (did ewr before) but now I live in base and have to commute to try and get off reserve so.....all just depends on preferences/qol.
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03-09-2019, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Lots of 4-5 year captains at delta on the 80 and 717. LCCs don’t have a time to upgrade advantage at this time.
03-09-2019, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
I think that is a number/time span that is going to rapidly change.
As stated earlier, without another aircraft order and based solely on retirements, at your age you would never upgrade.
But even with sustained growth, say hiring 300 and upgrading 150 per year, an FO hired today is looking closer to 6-7 years, unless there is several consecutive years of explosive growth.
This of course does not factor in economic cycles.
As stated earlier, without another aircraft order and based solely on retirements, at your age you would never upgrade.
But even with sustained growth, say hiring 300 and upgrading 150 per year, an FO hired today is looking closer to 6-7 years, unless there is several consecutive years of explosive growth.
This of course does not factor in economic cycles.
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03-09-2019, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FNGFO
You’d be in the vast minority, and the fact that those slots were going so junior speaks to that.
03-09-2019, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
Have you ever been based in LGA or JFK??
Living there wouldn’t be bad, but be ready to pay up!! Nice places aren’t cheap.
Living there wouldn’t be bad, but be ready to pay up!! Nice places aren’t cheap.
If I was at delta and it was an 8-10 year upgrade where I currently live or a two year upgrade in NYC I would move my family to within two hours of NYC and collect my extra $1 million plus over the next 6-8 years and then think about moving out if I could or wanted to at that time. That doesn’t even account for what my extra retirement contributions and profit sharing on captain pay would grow into by my retirement horizon. This also assumes I couldn’t hold widebody FO at my base of choice at or before the time I could hold marrowbody captain in NYC. That’s not everyone’s gig though I know that. For a new hire at any major airline it’s worth noting if they are doing a financial comparison
03-09-2019, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
Good to know also. Thanks.
03-10-2019, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
Just curious. Thinking about making an LCC like Spirit my goal as I'm 50 years young and getting back into aviation after an extended layoff.
Basically weighing time and earnings as an FO and CA at an LCC versus a major over the next 13 or so years.
Basically weighing time and earnings as an FO and CA at an LCC versus a major over the next 13 or so years.
757 - 2 years or less
Airbus - 5 years
767 - 8 years
777 - 15 years
Many Legacy/Cargo Widebody FO's can make as much, if not more than a Spirit Capt.
Just food for thought.
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03-14-2019, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrust Hold
Current Upgrade Times at FedEx:
757 - 2 years or less
Airbus - 5 years
767 - 8 years
777 - 15 years
Many Legacy/Cargo Widebody FO's can make as much, if not more than a Spirit Capt.
Just food for thought.
757 - 2 years or less
Airbus - 5 years
767 - 8 years
777 - 15 years
Many Legacy/Cargo Widebody FO's can make as much, if not more than a Spirit Capt.
Just food for thought.
Thanks.
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