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Old 03-26-2019, 08:15 PM   #21  
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I asked the union reps why our benefits are so poor and if we would negotiate improvements during the last CBA.
Their answer was that this was not a priority for NK pilots...
Apparently many folks don't fly anywhere internationally.
Spirit has one of the worse flight benefits out there.
No legacies, No international Far East Asian airlines, one African, but many small irrelevant (ex. Air Malta)
My family travels more than I commute and we hope for at least a legacy at some point, before the kids lose the benefit.
We have British Airways, QANTAS, Iberia, Air France, Air Canada, Lufthansa, Emirates, Eithiad just to name a few. Where are you wanting to fly to? You might have to make a connection. You must be really doing something wrong if you canít make it with the agreements that we have.
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We have British Airways, QANTAS, Iberia, Air France, Air Canada, Lufthansa, Emirates, Eithiad just to name a few. Where are you wanting to fly to? You might have to make a connection. You must be really doing something wrong if you canít make it with the agreements that we have.
Can travel companions buy ZED fares?
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We have British Airways, QANTAS, Iberia, Air France, Air Canada, Lufthansa, Emirates, Eithiad just to name a few. Where are you wanting to fly to? You might have to make a connection. You must be really doing something wrong if you canít make it with the agreements that we have.
That's the reason we don't have decent benefits, folks like you think what we have is good enough.
I am aware who we have and have flown most of those.
I still can't fly non stop to Chile, Japan, New Zealand, China, Thailand, South Africa to name a few.
Glad you are happy though
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Can travel companions buy ZED fares?
Idk. My wife can...Thatís all I care about.
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That's the reason we don't have decent benefits, folks like you think what we have is good enough.
I am aware who we have and have flown most of those.
I still can't fly non stop to Chile, Japan, New Zealand, China, Thailand, South Africa to name a few.
Glad you are happy though

Yeah Iím actually pretty happy. What else are you wanting?? Let me guess you want to fly on Delta international so you can be number 30 on the standby list to maybe have a chance to get bad service from an old hag that doesnít care anymore because she has been at her job for 30 years. Oh and donít forget most the time the drinks arenít free. No I would rather fly a foreign carrier where you get good service and free drinks.

And all those places you named you can get to with our existing agreements. So your just crying cause you canít get their non-stop? Yeah my hometown airport is big but sometimes I have to make a connection.
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Yeah Iím actually pretty happy. What else are you wanting?? Let me guess you want to fly on Delta international so you can be number 30 on the standby list to maybe have a chance to get bad service from an old hag that doesnít care anymore because she has been at her job for 30 years. Oh and donít forget most the time the drinks arenít free. No I would rather fly a foreign carrier where you get good service and free drinks.

And all those places you named you can get to with our existing agreements. So your just crying cause you canít get their non-stop? Yeah my hometown airport is big but sometimes I have to make a connection.
Enjoy the service, IN COACH! How in the world do you sit in coach over oceans? Are you a little person? Oh btw, the FO has 200hrs so sleep tight
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That's the reason we don't have decent benefits, folks like you think what we have is good enough.
I am aware who we have and have flown most of those.
I still can't fly non stop to Chile, Japan, New Zealand, China, Thailand, South Africa to name a few.
Glad you are happy though
I agree with this ^^^^
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I agree with this ^^^^

Do you guys think Spirit management doesn't want agreements with every airline? I talked to the person in charge of interline agreements at AA, and was directly told they don't want an agreement with Spirit because they wouldn't benefit enough from it. Same reason we lost United.



We can't bargain our way into agreements, maybe if we grow enough other airlines will see the benefit of having a Spirit interline agreement.


We are actually fantastic to non-rev on since there are so many no shows, and we don't have that many employees that are eligible since we outsource so much of our labor.
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Do you guys think Spirit management doesn't want agreements with every airline? I talked to the person in charge of interline agreements at AA, and was directly told they don't want an agreement with Spirit because they wouldn't benefit enough from it. Same reason we lost United.



We can't bargain our way into agreements, maybe if we grow enough other airlines will see the benefit of having a Spirit interline agreement.


We are actually fantastic to non-rev on since there are so many no shows, and we don't have that many employees that are eligible since we outsource so much of our labor.
I'm sure that's what they told you, but why then do Allegiant and (I'm pretty sure)Frontier have United benefits?
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Enjoy the service, IN COACH! How in the world do you sit in coach over oceans? Are you a little person? Oh btw, the FO has 200hrs so sleep tight
Yeah 200 hour FO on BA or Lufthansa flying a heavy right....

I wasnít talking about Air Zimbabwe..
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