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03-28-2019, 06:53 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by RonnyK320
Do you guys think Spirit management doesn't want agreements with every airline? I talked to the person in charge of interline agreements at AA, and was directly told they don't want an agreement with Spirit because they wouldn't benefit enough from it. Same reason we lost United.
But yet Frontier AND allegiant both have AA.
How much can they honestly benefit from them?
03-28-2019, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
But yet Frontier AND allegiant both have AA.
How much can they honestly benefit from them?
How much can they honestly benefit from them?
Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
I'm sure that's what they told you, but why then do Allegiant and (I'm pretty sure)Frontier have United benefits?
Anyone believing a word this management says, please remember:
June CBA relief...outside of negotiations!
Last minute PBS...Nov 2017
Distant Learning LOA...outside of negotiations!
Current denial to implement Trip Rigs
RED Green...grievance.
Dropping RES middle days off ...grievance
ALL in bad faith.
United merger?...
If and only IF Ted C, and BF get a huge bonus!
03-28-2019, 03:10 PM
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F9 guy here. We don’t have united anymore either, lost it 2-3 years probably for the same reason you guys did. Parents and spouse can fly on WN which is helpful stateside (not domestic partner or companion though). I’ve been told spouses can fly on AA as well, but I wouldn’t know. My registered companion isn’t able to zed on AA or WN
03-29-2019, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
But yet Frontier AND allegiant both have AA.
How much can they honestly benefit from them?
How much can they honestly benefit from them?
How do you think getting Zeds works? You think it’s something the pilots negotiate and then management pays for? Honest question...
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03-29-2019, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
How do you think getting Zeds works? You think it’s something the pilots negotiate and then management pays for? Honest question...
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Our departments just don't care because we don't seem to care. that's it.
03-29-2019, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
not at all. but the whole "we don't have them because they say they benefit less than we do" is absolute bologna. First of all, zeds are all SPACE AVAILABLE travel. Second, it's absolute dead last in priority (ahead of jumpseaters only) and thirdly they are empty seats that we as employees PAY for, remember, zeds are not free.
Our departments just don't care because we don't seem to care. that's it.
Our departments just don't care because we don't seem to care. that's it.
So if that’s the case ALPA national should push for it and say any ALPA pilot should have some sort of non rev benefit on any other ALPA carrier. The company doesn’t care, I agree, but I also don’t think they just gave United up years ago for no reason. There had to be something there or we would still have them.
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03-29-2019, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
So if that’s the case ALPA national should push for it and say any ALPA pilot should have some sort of non rev benefit on any other ALPA carrier. The company doesn’t care, I agree, but I also don’t think they just gave United up years ago for no reason. There had to be something there or we would still have them.
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as for the italicized, what I am assuming happened is United wanted a return ($$$) for ZEDing on them since we clearly benefit more from them than they do us (we hit what, 50 states and maybe 15 countries, they go to multiple continents). Spirit said no, and out we went. That's my theory
03-29-2019, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
I don't disagree at all with this.
as for the italicized, what I am assuming happened is United wanted a return ($$$) for ZEDing on them since we clearly benefit more from them than they do us (we hit what, 50 states and maybe 15 countries, they go to multiple continents). Spirit said no, and out we went. That's my theory
as for the italicized, what I am assuming happened is United wanted a return ($$$) for ZEDing on them since we clearly benefit more from them than they do us (we hit what, 50 states and maybe 15 countries, they go to multiple continents). Spirit said no, and out we went. That's my theory
50 states is not even close for us, much lower number. But I agree with what you’re getting at.
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