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Repo 04-12-2019 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 2801783)
If they changed the schedules they could build something like this:

11pm report LAS - BOS 11:45pm - 7:45am
22 hour overnight
5:45am report for BOS - LAS 6:30 - 9am

TAFB is 34 hours.


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Looks like a 20 hour 3 day to me after it sits in open time until it is x/y listed for premium pay.

symbian simian 04-12-2019 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 2801783)
If they changed the schedules they could build something like this:

11pm report LAS - BOS 11:45pm - 7:45am
22 hour overnight
5:45am report for BOS - LAS 6:30 - 9am

TAFB is 34 hours.



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We have those to EWR, currently paying 13:30, wonder what will happen after new rigs.

nuball5 04-13-2019 09:50 AM

At Jetblue pre-contract, the Airbus open-time was always flooded with 10hr/3 days. Company built as many as they could. They usually went to reserves, unless you’re a lineholder that wants to credit 77 hours with 12 days off, but easy flying. Those trips encompassed probably about 50% of the open time for the Airbus in BOS and JFK. Spirit’s route structure is different so maybe it won’t be a big issue.

Popeye0537 04-13-2019 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 2802265)
At Jetblue pre-contract, the Airbus open-time was always flooded with 10hr/3 days. Company built as many as they could. They usually went to reserves, unless you’re a lineholder that wants to credit 77 hours with 12 days off, but easy flying. Those trips encompassed probably about 50% of the open time for the Airbus in BOS and JFK. Spirit’s route structure is different so maybe it won’t be a big issue.

Unless you're based in LAS....then it will be. I was awarded those **** 3day back to back during mock bid. 6 days worth 20 hours...

Super EZ E 04-14-2019 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by BKbigfish (Post 2801127)
Yeah but the new rigs will help with this problem. Trips will either be commutable and lower credit or uncommutable and higher credit meaning you will have do work less days to credit the same. An uncommutable 4 day under the new rigs should pay at least 24-25 hours so you’d only need to do 3 of them which reduces the sting of commuting on days off a bit. Also with PBS you’ll be able to customize your line to your needs (assuming you have the seniority to hold it) which usually works out better for commuters than pre-built lines with half commutable trips that you have to go try and fix in IOT/DOT. I’m sitting about 50% and the lines I was getting with the PBS mock bids far exceed anything I’ve ever gotten here with traditional line bidding.

A lot of people aren't participating in the mock bids. I'd guess you'll need to get in the top 30% and life will be good under PBS.

BKbigfish 04-14-2019 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2803155)
A lot of people aren't participating in the mock bids. I'd guess you'll need to get in the top 30% and life will be good under PBS.

I guess we’ll see. I can’t imagine how it will be worse than the 14 day off 74 hour credit half commutable garbage lines I’m getting now at 50% seniority.

Skypilotsv1984 04-15-2019 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2803155)
A lot of people aren't participating in the mock bids. I'd guess you'll need to get in the top 30% and life will be good under PBS.

I haven’t heard anything about low participation. You have a source?

putzin 04-15-2019 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2803155)
A lot of people aren't participating in the mock bids. I'd guess you'll need to get in the top 30% and life will be good under PBS.


What are you considering low? 93% participated in my seat and base.

Super EZ E 04-15-2019 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2803414)
What are you considering low? 93% participated in my seat and base.

Cool, I don't no many Captains that spent much time doing the Bogus Bids. Not to burst your bubble of hope but you know it was BOGUS data loaded? The trips weren't real relative to our real system time table. Some trips were real but a lot of what you "bid" on was FAKE data loaded. Clearly very few went and checked to see if those trips actually were in our time table. I was given trips I'd love to have. Only problem we didn't fly the city pairs I was awarded at those times. It's a complete waste of time if you actually think you're getting anything near what you "bid" on. I guess we'll get to live the bidding train wreck very soon.

putzin 04-15-2019 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2803474)
Cool, I don't no many Captains that spent much time doing the Bogus Bids. Not to burst your bubble of hope but you know it was BOGUS data loaded? The trips weren't real relative to our real system time table. Some trips were real but a lot of what you "bid" on was FAKE data loaded. Clearly very few went and checked to see if those trips actually were in our time table. I was given trips I'd love to have. Only problem we didn't fly the city pairs I was awarded at those times. It's a complete waste of time if you actually think you're getting anything near what you "bid" on. I guess we'll get to live the bidding train wreck very soon.

No bubble bursted, thanks for the info. I let my default run on the last to see what it might net, so no real effort. We'll see what June brings.


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