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10-19-2019, 05:28 PM
#53
New Hire
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 3
Originally Posted by flyguy320
Actually the most junior capt award last bid was 1455 DOH 3/11/2017.
10-19-2019, 07:26 PM
#55
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Position: baller, shot caller
Posts: 961
Originally Posted by Flightcap
So I currently have 27 days off in November. Can't say that happens easily at a lot of the places people are touting as "better deals." Of course my paycheck will have something to say about that.....
Also I am not one of those types who needs to credit 90 hours a month for some baller lifestyle living in a million dollar pad with a trophy wife, two girlfriends, and a Maserati.
10-19-2019, 09:00 PM
#57
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 11
Originally Posted by Doubleknuckle
Psssst....you might want to look at the final awarded bid....not the first that what if bid that came out for the DEC CUG class. The final awarded Captain went to 1422 in the 2/11/17 class. Not a big deal but...
10-19-2019, 11:53 PM
#58
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 663
Originally Posted by SSlow
I'm off the whole week of thanksgiving and I didn't have any vacation slated for November. I don't know about other airlines but I'll go out on a limb and say that this isn't very realistic anywhere else.
Also I am not one of those types who needs to credit 90 hours a month for some baller lifestyle living in a million dollar pad with a trophy wife, two girlfriends, and a Maserati.
Also I am not one of those types who needs to credit 90 hours a month for some baller lifestyle living in a million dollar pad with a trophy wife, two girlfriends, and a Maserati.
10-20-2019, 07:08 PM
#59
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 707
Originally Posted by Omniscient
Show of hands, how many loudmouths on here who speak a big game, came to a picketing event?! Figures.
That being said, despite being a very vocal NO voter and still occasionally thumping my chest over it, I'm still happy working here. But it is okay to enjoy life while still thinking about what could have been done better.
This applies to all facets of life, not just your job.
10-21-2019, 11:21 AM
#60
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 311
Originally Posted by Skydreams14
Haha! I just need 106 and 25yrs with no furlough to be winning in my book lol. The comparison is not much more than 15. A 5yr CA leaves at whatever the pay is now. It will take 5yrs to upgrade so he would be at 10yr pay if he didnt leave. The difference between 5yr ca there and 10yr here is minor. In 2.5yrs retirement will be 15% but maybe theres goes to 20% i dont know. If it stay at 16% not much difference there. To make up for drastic pay decrease as a FO for 5yrs i dont think profit sharing does that much. The only thing is i have no clue what profit sharing actually comes out to. I dont want people to chase the shinny carrot. I know like many people that cargo is not the same and pays for lifestyle/rep. To call cargo rates Legacy pay is ridiculous and surprised no one called him out on it lol. A FO leaving makes sense but a CA doesn't and i hope in 2 contracts Fo pay will come close to Legacy so people wont mind being longtime FO's so we can get to +6000 pilots
Completely depends on age. Remember UPS gets 12% direct contribution PLUS pension/defined benefit. The only one that comes close because of their large profit sharing is Delta. No one else can match Fedex or UPS in that sense.
A 45 yr old with 20 years at UPS would walk away with roughly $84k per year for the rest of his life, on top of the 12% he/she had been getting for 20 years. Fedex approximately $100k. Both plans are very well funded. NO ONE can match that, Delta maybe doing some TMV computations.
3 yr Captain at Spirit is roughly $203, 3yr FO at UPS is roughly $192. How much above guarantee can a new Captain on reserve make?
Money is not everything! Some people don’t like cargo, and vice versa. If I were a 4-5 yr Captain at Spirit, at my age I would definitely not leave. QOL for Captains should improve more rapidly at Spirit due to continued growth. UPS Captain movement for a junior guy is VERY SLOW. And don’t think it will accelerate much when we hit peak retirements in 4-5 years.
There is most definitely not a right or wrong answer.
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