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Old 10-16-2019, 02:28 PM
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Why? There's a financial cost to hiring and training a pilot. It doesn't make sense to hire a 64 year old who may only give you 6 months of line flying before he ages out.

Pilots have to be weighed in terms of asset/liability. If what the pilot brings in line flying is less than what it cost to train him, they're a liability. If they bring in more, they become an asset.

What is it you don't understand about that simple equation?
First, don’t be a tool.

Second, it’s not the equation. It’s that people like you have a “rule of thumb” that says we need 2 years or more. Or in other terms; 63 and under are fine. How many applicants do we get that don’t fit this very selective “rule of thumb?” Do we have a stack of 64 year old applicants trying to come to Spirit so they can be on first year pay and then retire.

So yes, it’s a stupid rule of thumb because it essentially doesn’t rule anyone out and perhaps your “rules of thumb” should include things like “clean record,” “good personality,” flight experience” etc.

Focus Packrat, focus.

Wait, do you even work for Spirit? Or are you that arrogant that you answered a hiring question specifically for one airline, and you work for another, and then share your “rules of thumb” for another airline?

Haha. Pack, come on man
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Originally Posted by Omniscient View Post
First, don’t be a tool.

Second, it’s not the equation. It’s that people like you have a “rule of thumb” that says we need 2 years or more. Or in other terms; 63 and under are fine. How many applicants do we get that don’t fit this very selective “rule of thumb?” Do we have a stack of 64 year old applicants trying to come to Spirit so they can be on first year pay and then retire.

So yes, it’s a stupid rule of thumb because it essentially doesn’t rule anyone out and perhaps your “rules of thumb” should include things like “clean record,” “good personality,” flight experience” etc.

Focus Packrat, focus.

Wait, do you even work for Spirit? Or are you that arrogant that you answered a hiring question specifically for one airline, and you work for another, and then share your “rules of thumb” for another airline?

Haha. Pack, come on man
Dude he was just talking about age and hiring take a huge chill pill and move on. Or are you gonna call me a "tool" next?
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Old 10-16-2019, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris View Post
Dude he was just talking about age and hiring take a huge chill pill and move on. Or are you gonna call me a "tool" next?
Haha. You already know the answer.

And of course I never called him a tool. That would be uncouth. It was simply a cautionary suggestion to not be one.
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Old 10-16-2019, 09:06 PM
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Almost every airline uses the logic Packrat mentioned, not sure why things got personal. Spectre it’s not a factor, plenty of older folks hired but you’ll generally see more of a younger group in class simply because that’s who makes up more of the applicant pool.
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Originally Posted by Packrat View Post
Why? There's a financial cost to hiring and training a pilot. It doesn't make sense to hire a 64 year old who may only give you 6 months of line flying before he ages out.

Pilots have to be weighed in terms of asset/liability. If what the pilot brings in line flying is less than what it cost to train him, they're a liability. If they bring in more, they become an asset.

What is it you don't understand about that simple equation?
I'm with you, Packrat. Makes perfect sense to me.
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Unless things have changed, I was hired in 2017 at age 59. Almost didn’t go thinking I was too old. I was hired at a Meet-the-Chiefs event and Walked out with all paperwork, posters etc. I was shocked to the core at what had just happened.
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Old 10-17-2019, 06:30 AM
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Unless things have changed, I was hired in 2017 at age 59. Almost didn’t go thinking I was too old. I was hired at a Meet-the-Chiefs event and Walked out with all paperwork, posters etc. I was shocked to the core at what had just happened.
That was the benefit of getting hired in 2017 when we were offering jobs on the spot. They would have hired you and your grandpa.
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Old 10-17-2019, 10:27 AM
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Well, his grandpa would've been too old.
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Originally Posted by squawkoff View Post
Unless things have changed, I was hired in 2017 at age 59. Almost didn’t go thinking I was too old. I was hired at a Meet-the-Chiefs event and Walked out with all paperwork, posters etc. I was shocked to the core at what had just happened.
I would have hired you as well. You're going to give us 5.5 years of productive flying after you've been trained and qualified? You're an asset that should be treated as such.
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Old 10-17-2019, 10:34 AM
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Two years seems a very fair figure in this respect. In my company you're not allowed to upgrade anymore unless you have three years left. I think it used to be five even.
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