Southwest is looking to buy an all Airbus
10-22-2019, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by HeisenbergBlue
If we hadn’t taken the offer and been bought by Southwest, Frontier wouldn’t exist anymore. Southwest didn’t want us to diversify their fleet they wanted to shut us down.
True they didn’t want your Airbus they wanted Denver. But I think this was after they bought ATA and after that debacle of buying them for gate space. Thanks to the Mccaskill Bond statue they can no longer buy an airline and let all the pilots go which was signed in 2007. Since swa tried to buy f9 circa 2009 the pilots would have still had a job (probably not a good integration) but probably still better then republic running them into the ground.
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10-22-2019, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
Stapled to the bottom? Doubt it. Allegheny-Mohawk should protect you.
The Max mess continues, the longer this goes don't be surprised when SWA makes a move on another Airline so they can end this mess.
10-22-2019, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Super EZ E
Well, go look at SWAPA contract under merger. Ask any of your SWA buddies about merger language and you'll understand what happed to AirTran guys. It goes something like no SWA pilot can be harmed or upgrade delayed. So SWA could take the left seat of every bus we have. Bend over! The Max mess continues, the longer this goes don't be surprised when SWA makes a move on another Airline so they can end this mess.
The Max mess continues, the longer this goes don't be surprised when SWA makes a move on another Airline so they can end this mess.I wouldn’t be too worried about one Wall St. analysts speculation.
10-22-2019, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
The Max mess will be long over with before any merger could be completed. The benefits of such a merger or acquisition would take some time to be realized as well.
I wouldn’t be too worried about one Wall St. analysts speculation.
I wouldn’t be too worried about one Wall St. analysts speculation.
10-22-2019, 06:31 PM
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Spirit will place a large MAX order and trade our current, and future Airbus deliveries to Southwest in exchange for their MAXs. It’s a trick play. We diversify their fleet, while upgrading ours to a ‘proudly all Boeing’ sticker fleet!
10-22-2019, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Super EZ E
Well, go look at SWAPA contract under merger. Ask any of your SWA buddies about merger language and you'll understand what happed to AirTran guys. It goes something like no SWA pilot can be harmed or upgrade delayed. So SWA could take the left seat of every bus we have. Bend over! The Max mess continues, the longer this goes don't be surprised when SWA makes a move on another Airline so they can end this mess.
The Max mess continues, the longer this goes don't be surprised when SWA makes a move on another Airline so they can end this mess.I don't think it's ok to post their contract here but I have an entire paragraph literally labeled MERGERS and it mentions nothing about harming, or delaying upgrade at all.
10-22-2019, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CLRtoPush
Spirit will place a large MAX order and trade our current, and future Airbus deliveries to Southwest in exchange for their MAXs. It’s a trick play. We diversify their fleet, while upgrading ours to a ‘proudly all Boeing’ sticker fleet!
So we want to be in swa shoes? You sound like a hedge fund manager selling Enron shares
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10-22-2019, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CLRtoPush
Spirit will place a large MAX order and trade our current, and future Airbus deliveries to Southwest in exchange for their MAXs. It’s a trick play. We diversify their fleet, while upgrading ours to a ‘proudly all Boeing’ sticker fleet!
10-22-2019, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
True they didn’t want your Airbus they wanted Denver. But I think this was after they bought ATA and after that debacle of buying them for gate space. Thanks to the Mccaskill Bond statue they can no longer buy an airline and let all the pilots go which was signed in 2007. Since swa tried to buy f9 circa 2009 the pilots would have still had a job (probably not a good integration) but probably still better then republic running them into the ground.
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10-23-2019, 05:11 AM
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Southwest is looking to buy an all Airbus
Originally Posted by Tmeister
I don’t think Southwest purchased ATA. ATA filed for chapter 7 and after liquidating, WN bid for and purchased some of their assets (gates in MDW and slots at LGA). They did interview and hire a bunch of ATA folks across many departments, however.
Thanks my memory on that was fuzzy they did buy them after bankruptcy and the stipulation was that it “doesn't include any aircraft, facilities or employees of ATA." I had a buddy that worked at ata and had an interview but I guess a number of ata guys they interviewed were let’s say “unpleasant” in the interview and so swa said no more ata guys. That parts all rumor from my buddy (so who actually knows) but he didn’t get hired.
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