Southwest is looking to buy an all Airbus
#41
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Well, go look at SWAPA contract under merger. Ask any of your SWA buddies about merger language and you'll understand what happed to AirTran guys. It goes something like no SWA pilot can be harmed or upgrade delayed. So SWA could take the left seat of every bus we have. Bend over!
The Max mess continues, the longer this goes don't be surprised when SWA makes a move on another Airline so they can end this mess.
The Max mess continues, the longer this goes don't be surprised when SWA makes a move on another Airline so they can end this mess.
#42
Ahhh, no. MEC didn't have to release it to the members, and because it was so bad, a lot (i won't say most, because no formal vote was taken) agreed it didn't deserve a vote. The second offer was way worse, and included the threat of you don't take it you are out of a job. It wasn't offered by SWAPA, but came directly fro SWA management (side-note, yes, a union is supposed to protect it's own members over other groups, but a union that lets management do it's work for it..... against fellow pilots). It wasn't me, but it was in my house. SWA is a GREAT company to work for if they hired you, but as a 6 year NK guy I would rather merge with Mesa than SWA.
#43
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From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Ahhh, no. MEC didn't have to release it to the members, and because it was so bad, a lot (i won't say most, because no formal vote was taken) agreed it didn't deserve a vote. The second offer was way worse, and included the threat of you don't take it you are out of a job. It wasn't offered by SWAPA, but came directly fro SWA management (side-note, yes, a union is supposed to protect it's own members over other groups, but a union that lets management do it's work for it..... against fellow pilots). It wasn't me, but it was in my house. SWA is a GREAT company to work for if they hired you, but as a 6 year NK guy I would rather merge with Mesa than SWA.
#44
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If we just didnt start building a 250 mil headquarters then i would say a merger could be possible. Now i would give my stamp of approval that it's not possible and we are too profitable. We are blowing up to to become the big 4. If we get that seating comfort right we will be on our way. My wife flew on the MD80 last week for work and said it was terrible and preferred our planes lol. I have worked under AA, DL, UA, F9, and midwest at my other company and I'm impressed with spirit operations. New guys get on now and dont be fooled by the few that talk spirit down. Its Its actually pretty great with mostly one or 2 leg days. If i do 3 legs im working to hard lol
#45
British Airways is buying us. They need that new US Headquarters to try to convince regulators that they are a us company. With Brexit a new open skies agreement is happening between the USA and Britain. Also regulators are going to bring the retirement age up to 90 so that the retired BA pilots can fly the Spirit jets here in the USA.
More to follow next week. Stay tuned.
More to follow next week. Stay tuned.
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If we just didnt start building a 250 mil headquarters then i would say a merger could be possible. Now i would give my stamp of approval that it's not possible and we are too profitable. We are blowing up to to become the big 4. If we get that seating comfort right we will be on our way. My wife flew on the MD80 last week for work and said it was terrible and preferred our planes lol. I have worked under AA, DL, UA, F9, and midwest at my other company and I'm impressed with spirit operations. New guys get on now and dont be fooled by the few that talk spirit down. Its Its actually pretty great with mostly one or 2 leg days. If i do 3 legs im working to hard lol
So you worked at probably republic under all the legacies and you’re impressed by our operations. Ya don’t say. How majors operate their regionals and how they operate their mainline are completely different. I’m glad spirit is better than your regional. I supposed to be! It’s got a long way to go on our side and the corporate side to be a real player. We don’t have much of a chance if people set the bar as better than my regional.
#47
Easy there skippy 290 planes is smaller than current jetblue not the big 4 and that’s 7 years from now. The big 4 have 800-1000 planes just at mainline not counting their feeders.
So you worked at probably republic under all the legacies and you’re impressed by our operations. Ya don’t say. How majors operate their regionals and how they operate their mainline are completely different. I’m glad spirit is better than your regional. I supposed to be! It’s got a long way to go on our side and the corporate side to be a real player. We don’t have much of a chance if people set the bar as better than my regional.
So you worked at probably republic under all the legacies and you’re impressed by our operations. Ya don’t say. How majors operate their regionals and how they operate their mainline are completely different. I’m glad spirit is better than your regional. I supposed to be! It’s got a long way to go on our side and the corporate side to be a real player. We don’t have much of a chance if people set the bar as better than my regional.
#48
They have 2 fleets soon to be 3 before back down to two. Why in the world would anybody sign up for that headache?
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Easy there skippy 290 planes is smaller than current jetblue not the big 4 and that’s 7 years from now. The big 4 have 800-1000 planes just at mainline not counting their feeders.
So you worked at probably republic under all the legacies and you’re impressed by our operations. Ya don’t say. How majors operate their regionals and how they operate their mainline are completely different. I’m glad spirit is better than your regional. I supposed to be! It’s got a long way to go on our side and the corporate side to be a real player. We don’t have much of a chance if people set the bar as better than my regional.
So you worked at probably republic under all the legacies and you’re impressed by our operations. Ya don’t say. How majors operate their regionals and how they operate their mainline are completely different. I’m glad spirit is better than your regional. I supposed to be! It’s got a long way to go on our side and the corporate side to be a real player. We don’t have much of a chance if people set the bar as better than my regional.
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Sorry this isn’t accurate at all. Spirit isn’t the only one who ordered NEO’s. Two on property at Jetblue, with 83 left to come.


