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Old 12-14-2019 | 08:58 AM
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I'm soon to upgrade at my RJ job and be a 2nd year CA. Assuming a low 80s hourly pay rate and the ability to pick up on days off as a reservist, how would my income compare to the realistic income of a year 1 and 2 Spirit FO?

Any new FOs / former RJ CAs at Spirit care to chime in? Would really appreciate the insight.

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Old 12-14-2019 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rswitz
I'm soon to upgrade at my RJ job and be a 2nd year CA. Assuming a low 80s hourly pay rate and the ability to pick up on days off as a reservist, how would my income compare to the realistic income of a year 1 and 2 Spirit FO?



Any new FOs / former RJ CAs at Spirit care to chime in? Would really appreciate the insight.



Thanks!


Are you familiar with airline pilot central? All pay rates are published. You’ll take a hit year one and be forever ahead thereafter I bet. Go look.


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Old 12-14-2019 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BravoTango
Are you familiar with airline pilot central? All pay rates are published. You’ll take a hit year one and be forever ahead thereafter I bet. Go look.


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Yup, I've seen the rates on APC. I know they are much higher at Spirit, but I'm looking for more of a multi-factored real world average. Something that factors in monthly credit values, premium pay averages, open time etc.

I know it widely varies so probably not an easy question to answer.

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Old 12-14-2019 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rswitz
Yup, I've seen the rates on APC. I know they are much higher at Spirit, but I'm looking for more of a multi-factored real world average. Something that factors in monthly credit values, premium pay averages, open time etc.

I know it widely varies so probably not an easy question to answer.

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On reserve you can’t pick anything up on days off.

You can list yourself for premium trips and maybe get lucky if the phone rings. It’s a nice “bonus” but nothing to plan with.

Plan on minimum guarantee for year 1 and that’s it. QOL is leaps and bounds better than the regional I came from. Year 1 pay stinks but I see my family way more now.
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Old 12-14-2019 | 10:35 AM
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Unless you’re holding out for a legacy job I think anyone would be crazy not to make the leap to a LCC. Yeah, it’s a pay cut year 1 but it’s not that bad once you’re off training pay. Factor in the direct contribution to 401k, cheaper health insurance, better scheduling flexibility and QOL was a pretty easy choice for me.
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Old 12-14-2019 | 10:41 AM
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Unless you have a guaranteed flow through at your regional, I think you’d be unwise not to go to spirit. Between massive growth, the possibility of mergers and acquisitions, flying your own metal, and 15% contribution to your 401(k) it’s a no brainer to me.
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Old 12-14-2019 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Unless you have a guaranteed flow through at your regional, I think you’d be unwise not to go to spirit. Between massive growth, the possibility of mergers and acquisitions, flying your own metal, and 15% contribution to your 401(k) it’s a no brainer to me.
Agreed. The direct contribution is huge. Only thing is I live in Colorado. Wife and I have considered moving to CHS but either way its gonna be a commute.
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Old 12-14-2019 | 11:00 AM
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Agreed. The direct contribution is huge. Only thing is I live in Colorado. Wife and I have considered moving to CHS but either way its gonna be a commute.
Do you have a CJO from NK?

If Colorado is important maybe consider F9.
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Old 12-14-2019 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Cefiro
Do you have a CJO from NK?

If Colorado is important maybe consider F9.
Agreed. It’s not as easy as everyone thinks to get a CJO.

With that said, life is great here vs the regionals. Very enjoyable place to be!
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Old 12-14-2019 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Unless you have a guaranteed flow through at your regional, I think you’d be unwise not to go to spirit. Between massive growth, the possibility of mergers and acquisitions, flying your own metal, and 15% contribution to your 401(k) it’s a no brainer to me.

Since when does Spirit offer 15% DC to the 401k?
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