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Old 12-17-2019 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rswitz
Absolutely. I am all for self betterment and I do believe a degree would be beneficial for my future professional growth. I will look into some online programs to finish my degree. I appreciate all the input.

That said, I'm pretty excited for the opportunity with Spirit. I've been talking to some pilots at Spirit and they seem very happy there. I will apply and hopefully hear back.

You don’t have an opportunity yet. Apply, interview, get the cjo, then you have a real tangible thing that you can actually consider. I would also apply to F9 so that then you have two very real, tangible opportunities to compare and make a decision. Good luck!
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Old 12-17-2019 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by booter24
Here we go with the degree thing....who gives a $***. You wanna better chance of getting a job in this industry? Get a degree! You wanna try to get a job without one? Don’t get one! Flying a plane isn’t rocket science.....flown with a lot of guys without degree’s and we were all ok!
Haha, ok. I hear you

Nobody said a degree makes you a better pilot, it makes you more marketable and is a requirement currently for legacy carriers. The only one on here comparing flying ability and a degree is you.

I have a degree and work for a place that doesn’t require one. Would I have been hired without one? Who knows, don’t care. My ROI has been more than beneficial enough even IF the degree helped/did not help me get on.
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Old 12-17-2019 | 11:38 AM
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Haha, ok. I hear you

Nobody said a degree makes you a better pilot, it makes you more marketable and is a requirement currently for legacy carriers. The only one on here comparing flying ability and a degree is you.

I have a degree and work for a place that doesn’t require one. Would I have been hired without one? Who knows, don’t care. My ROI has been more than beneficial enough even IF the degree helped/did not help me get on.
You stated that you were bitter cause you got a degree and ended up not needing one. I guess I don’t understand that thinking.....are you bitter cause someone didn’t have a degree and got hired? So what! It’s like I tell my kids....”life’s not fair, get over it”. I agree with you that it is definitely a smart move to get one if you wanna fly for a career, but it’s definitely not required. I’m pretty sure delta and fed ex where the only ones that actually require a degree.....I could be wrong about that, but I’m too lazy to look it up. And for the record, I have a degree.
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Old 12-17-2019 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by booter24
You stated that you were bitter cause you got a degree and ended up not needing one. I guess I don’t understand that thinking.....are you bitter cause someone didn’t have a degree and got hired? So what! It’s like I tell my kids....”life’s not fair, get over it”. I agree with you that it is definitely a smart move to get one if you wanna fly for a career, but it’s definitely not required. I’m pretty sure delta and fed ex where the only ones that actually require a degree.....I could be wrong about that, but I’m too lazy to look it up. And for the record, I have a degree.
Nah, that wasn’t me. Sounds like that QOTSA fellow on here who said he was bitter. Perhaps a degree would help your reading comprehension. 😂 (couldn’t resist)
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Old 12-17-2019 | 12:29 PM
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Must've been a 747 operation. What ballpark of W2 was it for a 3rd year 747 Capt. vs your 2nd year at Spirit? Think I made about $80k my second year at Spirit under the old CBA.
I live in base and flew my ass off. Low six figures on the old contract.

Still more than flying white 747’s into Afghanistan.
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Old 12-17-2019 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rswitz
Absolutely. I am all for self betterment and I do believe a degree would be beneficial for my future professional growth. I will look into some online programs to finish my degree. I appreciate all the input.

That said, I'm pretty excited for the opportunity with Spirit. I've been talking to some pilots at Spirit and they seem very happy there. I will apply and hopefully hear back.
Think if it this way, if you interview here or anywhere, and got turned down. You’re going wonder if the lack of degree has something to do with it. If you had one, you can rule that reason out, and focus on other area to prep for your interview.
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Old 12-17-2019 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Omniscient
Nah, that wasn’t me. Sounds like that QOTSA fellow on here who said he was bitter. Perhaps a degree would help your reading comprehension. 😂 (couldn’t resist)

My bad......but see, I have a degree and I still can’t read🤣
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Old 12-17-2019 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
Think if it this way, if you interview here or anywhere, and got turned down. You’re going wonder if the lack of degree has something to do with it. If you had one, you can rule that reason out, and focus on other area to prep for your interview.
I think if you don’t have a degree, and get an interview, they are clearly willing to hire you if you don’t have a degree...it’s known. Just as if you have a degree and have a poor interview, they won’t give you a job just because you have a degree.

Let’s face it; a degree is what the computer scores a value, and a certain value gets a call. As applications decrease, the scoring model is adjusted accordingly. Right now the “degree” is the easiest discriminator out there to thin out a stack of thousands.

If the OP wants to spend his SkyWest overnights in Butte doing anything else but distant learning, don’t get a degree. If you want to do homework on your 10 hour overnights in Jackson Hole, get your degree.

But in the end, he hasn’t even filled an application out and already pondering if it’s better than 2nd year CA pay at SkyWest. That kind of thinking worries me more than a degree, or lack thereof.
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Old 12-17-2019 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Omniscient

But in the end, he hasn’t even filled an application out and already pondering if it’s better than 2nd year CA pay at SkyWest. That kind of thinking worries me more than a degree, or lack thereof.
Also applying and thinking you will be getting a guaranteed call a week later doesn’t happen anymore. May take some face to face time at Meet the Chiefs.
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Old 12-17-2019 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDHD
Also applying and thinking you will be getting a guaranteed call a week later doesn’t happen anymore. May take some face to face time at Meet the Chiefs.
True true. I always laugh at the jumpseater from brand x regional airline who says “yeah, I’m debating on putting an application in, not sure”. I guess the figure as soon as they hit “send,” Sandi is calling them with a direct entry CA slot here at Spirit.
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