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Old 03-09-2020 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Super EZ E
You guys have seen the email right? Ted claims we will only grow April at 9% so clearly Management isn't that worried.
also says they don’t expect to make any adjustments to hiring, staffing or training. Hopefully that stands correct

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Old 03-09-2020 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AllOva736
also says they don’t expect to any adjustments to hiring, staffing or training. Hopefully that stands correct


Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
They have already cut capacity for April they’ve pretty much already made their choice. I doubt we will be seeing many more classes going forward.


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You know, future spirit pilots read what you say and make decisions based on your ignorant post..... not the best decision but it happens. Start researching and adding educated content, not pond swill. It’s a bad look and makes me think this forum is infected with bitter regional lifers. I just finished recurrent and the union and company folks said the exact opposite, more new hires without any reduction through 2020. Some April reduced hours were coming due to the virus but also the Airbus delivery slow down. Facts, although elusive these days, make for an informed group. I appreciate the previous post using facts to report what is really going on. Common guys/gals.... this is the big leagues. Act like you’ve been there....


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Old 03-09-2020 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by flyjbh
Common guys/gals.... this is the big leagues. Act like you’ve been there....


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I have been there, furloughed after 9/11 and downgraded in the recession. That would be great if they keep hiring (more seniority for me) but I’ve heard this song and dance before. Plan for the worst hope for the best.


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Old 03-09-2020 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
I have been there, furloughed after 9/11 and downgraded in the recession. That would be great if they keep hiring (more seniority for me) but I’ve heard this song and dance before.


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I was there pre 9/11 too. This is different . Hopefully the bow of the ship learned something back then


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Old 03-10-2020 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by flyjbh
I was there pre 9/11 too. This is different . Hopefully the bow of the ship learned something back then


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Was the bow of our ship even in the industry during 9/11? Ted's pretty young.
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Old 03-10-2020 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by flyjbh
You know, future spirit pilots read what you say and make decisions based on your ignorant post..... not the best decision but it happens. Start researching and adding educated content, not pond swill. It’s a bad look and makes me think this forum is infected with bitter regional lifers. I just finished recurrent and the union and company folks said the exact opposite, more new hires without any reduction through 2020. Some April reduced hours were coming due to the virus but also the Airbus delivery slow down. Facts, although elusive these days, make for an informed group. I appreciate the previous post using facts to report what is really going on. Common guys/gals.... this is the big leagues. Act like you’ve been there....


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That’s a harsh response to flyingpuma1. Specially considering he’s not affirming it will happen. Neither of us know for sure how this story will unfold, nor the company, nor the union. I personally don’t see extremes like furloughs but things could stagnate for a while, at least for our growth standards. It might be short lived though, but sudden drop in demand could rattle us all right. We’re not bullet proofed.

I wouldn’t advise newhires to change their plans. Take the job if offered. Just be cautious with your math. You might stay longer on reserve but hey, that could always be the case right?
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Old 03-10-2020 | 10:18 AM
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Roll the Dice, come play Airline Pilot. Welcome to the Airline world. Funny how everything has changed in 10 days. Everything you think you know just went out the window.
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Old 03-10-2020 | 12:12 PM
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Like every other news headline, people won’t remember this coronavirus by December. I swear if the news outlets didn’t broadcast/exaggerate it 24/7 for their ratings, we wouldn’t be facing this meltdown.

as far as the 2020 hiring, they planned for 64/month and so far they have hit or exceeded those numbers in every single month. April has 68 new hires scheduled. Subject to change at any time of course, but so far so good. I doubt it will stop but I also wouldn’t be surprised if they cut it in half for a short while.

I think as long as this virus doesn’t lead to another recession, we might make it out fine.

reserves are gonna be bored for a while though
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Old 03-10-2020 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Like every other news headline, people won’t remember this coronavirus by December. I swear if the news outlets didn’t broadcast/exaggerate it 24/7 for their ratings, we wouldn’t be facing this meltdown.

as far as the 2020 hiring, they planned for 64/month and so far they have hit or exceeded those numbers in every single month. April has 68 new hires scheduled. Subject to change at any time of course, but so far so good. I doubt it will stop but I also wouldn’t be surprised if they cut it in half for a short while.

I think as long as this virus doesn’t lead to another recession, we might make it out fine.

reserves are gonna be bored for a while though
i think spirit would do pretty well in a recession assuming oil stays reasonably priced. People won’t want to spend the extra money to fly a legacy so they’ll fly spirit instead. Companies wanting to save on travel will fly spirit instead of a legacy. It’s why a lot of us came here.
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Old 03-10-2020 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
i think spirit would do pretty well in a recession assuming oil stays reasonably priced. People won’t want to spend the extra money to fly a legacy so they’ll fly spirit instead. Companies wanting to save on travel will fly spirit instead of a legacy. It’s why a lot of us came here.
i believe our model is optimized for $105/barrel oil. Low fuel prices allow the competition to play their reindeer games to price match us.
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