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Old 01-31-2020 | 10:51 PM
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I’m all for everyone having other sources of income....

just wondering if anyone else has had issues with the other pilot being more intent on their “side gig” than the job at hand.....

VERY frustrating....
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Old 02-01-2020 | 01:04 AM
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Old 02-01-2020 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SG1159
I’m all for everyone having other sources of income....

just wondering if anyone else has had issues with the other pilot being more intent on their “side gig” than the job at hand.....

VERY frustrating....
At my previous company there was a pilot who would be on the phone managing his other job from engine shutdown to just before pushback. It happens. If you follow the salary survey you will realize that FOs at Spirit are making $21,000 in their first 6 months and that can be very difficult on a family. I know you didn’t specify any details but everyone has a different situation.
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Old 02-01-2020 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SG1159
I’m all for everyone having other sources of income....

just wondering if anyone else has had issues with the other pilot being more intent on their “side gig” than the job at hand.....

VERY frustrating....
I have though about doing stand up comedy on my days off, and possibly giving the other guy a preview during flight.
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Old 02-13-2020 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SG1159
I’m all for everyone having other sources of income....

just wondering if anyone else has had issues with the other pilot being more intent on their “side gig” than the job at hand.....

VERY frustrating....
Maybe the guy has a great business and the flying is the side gig... ever think of that? If it's not a safety issue then perhaps you should pay more attention to yourself and leave others to do their thing.
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Old 02-14-2020 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rabsing76
Maybe the guy has a great business and the flying is the side gig... ever think of that? If it's not a safety issue then perhaps you should pay more attention to yourself and leave others to do their thing.

AHHH no, if you are in the aircraft, I need them to back me up, kinda hard to rely on them when they are on the phone,

what if we have a situation in the back and I’m dealing with maintenance, it’s hard to delegate tasks when they are on the phone with their “side gig” without getting a little stern when I shouldn’t have to.

I have told F/Os “If you are gonna be here, then this flight deck is number 1 priority, otherwise maybe this isn’t for you or call out”

So no I won’t stay out of it, cause at the end of the day I’m the one who has to explain
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Old 02-14-2020 | 07:32 AM
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Wait until the person you're flying with goes full MLM hunbot.
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Old 02-14-2020 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Freightcowboy
AHHH no, if you are in the aircraft, I need them to back me up, kinda hard to rely on them when they are on the phone,

what if we have a situation in the back and I’m dealing with maintenance, it’s hard to delegate tasks when they are on the phone with their “side gig” without getting a little stern when I shouldn’t have to.

I have told F/Os “If you are gonna be here, then this flight deck is number 1 priority, otherwise maybe this isn’t for you or call out”

So no I won’t stay out of it, cause at the end of the day I’m the one who has to explain
That situation is the exception not the rule. Normally you can get the plane ready in about 10 min or less and you just sit around the rest of the time. Sure, sometimes there is an abnormal situation (like something MX) and I'll agree with you that the abnormal situation needs to be dealt with first, but the original poster of this thread seemed like he was complaining about his FO doing his side gig under normal circumstances. As long as the other guy gets their normal duties done, then they can do whatever they want the rest of the time you just sit there and wait.

This is a really easy job. Don't make it harder than it needs to be (because some guys out there definitely do, I guess to justify the fat paycheck?)
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Old 02-14-2020 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rabsing76
That situation is the exception not the rule. Normally you can get the plane ready in about 10 min or less and you just sit around the rest of the time. Sure, sometimes there is an abnormal situation (like something MX) and I'll agree with you that the abnormal situation needs to be dealt with first, but the original poster of this thread seemed like he was complaining about his FO doing his side gig under normal circumstances. As long as the other guy gets their normal duties done, then they can do whatever they want the rest of the time you just sit there and wait.

This is a really easy job. Don't make it harder than it needs to be (because some guys out there definitely do, I guess to justify the fat paycheck?)
You must be the guy who always misses things that I thankfully found and corrected. The professionalism of our FO's is abysmal. I love flying 1.5 pilot.
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Old 02-14-2020 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Macjet
You must be the guy who always misses things that I thankfully found and corrected. The professionalism of our FO's is abysmal. I love flying 1.5 pilot.
Thats a bit dramatic. I agree that some FO's could use a lesson in adulthood but to generalize is silly. This is an industry problem fyi..... just talked to a FDX buddy that said they just had another pilot fired for playing on their phone.
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