Halon1211

just curious. What was the phase of flight when they got fired for playing on their phone?
walk-around, loading, taxiing...

LandGreen

sheesh loosen up a little commander

rabsing76

Yeah and you must be the guy who's busy reading taxiway closure notams and highlighting taxiways on your chart near RWY 10 in ATL when you're landing on 8R, because you know just in case they send you to the south side of ATL coming in from the north (which in probably hundreds of landings in ATL has never happened to me...)

You're proving my point: guys making this job harder than it needs to be.

RemoveB4flght

Sooo... doing what he gets paid very good money to do? Pretty weak argument there bud.

Halon1211

exactly!

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Qotsaautopilot

agreed and unfortunately it goes for some captains too. Issue is guys in the industry a while are holding out for legacies a lot of times. We are hiring lower time guys and some corporate 135 and this is their first airline. An unfortunate byproduct of a fast moving industry is guys getting into the regionals don’t stay long and are flying with another guy that hasn’t been around long. There’s not much of a seasoning process and bad habits and lackadaisical cool guy attitudes proliferate.

None of us were great when we first started 121 and some of us were pretty young. Flying with guys that set good examples along with some personal maturing and we all got better. It’s good and bad that we are having these kind of issues that used to be mostly a regional issue but it’s up to us to lead by example and that includes professional FOs flying with less than professional CAs. This goes for actions in the cockpit and in public. I’ve had fellow pilots say things in the gate area either talking to me or the FAs that we’re down right embarrassing. Act like you’ve been here before.

Qotsaautopilot

Are you the guy that doesn’t read notams and realizes halfway to the destination that you got dispatched to a closed runway?

That said our notam packet is a complete mess and forget being able to read the ACARS printout if you need to divert to a new alternate

rabsing76

NOTAMS? Yes on occasion there is an important NOTAM but 99% of the NOTAMS have zero impact on your flight. Your job is to look at the NOTAMS and find that one NOTAM that is important to your flight. But no, there are some guys that treat every single last NOTAM like it's the be all end all, that taxiway closure in some obscure corner of the airport you never go to, that 200' crane 2 miles off the end of the runway, etc. I don't care about that obscure stuff and never will. But there is always that guy who obsesses about it. And yeah, they are working too hard. You wanna be that guy? I'll make fun of you for it. I've got tens of thousands of hours of flight time with this philosophy and I've never had an issue.

Omniscient

You done with the hyperbole? You should check the NOTAMs. What one does to scan the NOTAMs is up to them, why do you care? Are you cool, with your “tens of thousands of hours,” that you can find the one NOTAM without scanning

Youre awesome. I’ll be honest, I’m curious to who you work for...who has to deal with your kind of logic.

“tens of thousands of hours”...🙄. So cool.

69fastback

yikes.......