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DrSteveBrule 02-28-2020 01:48 PM

until people start losng their jobs, all is well. Market corrections are normal. Buying an overbought market for two straight years is not normal.

Judge Smails 02-28-2020 02:43 PM

The correction was inevitable (and overdue)...this is a convenient catalyst.

Balker 02-28-2020 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 2985901)
I believe his meaning is, if we were to go into a recession (after the fact) and people are cutting back discretionary income, but still want to (try) and travel, Spirit will be in a good position.

Allegiant was still making money in 2008-09 for that very reason.

Yes, we can agree on that. But our problems are not based on a market correction or a broad recession. The problem is way deeper than that. What the industry is potentially facing now, it’s a post 9/11 demand drop. It’s true that investors are overreacting in other industries, but for us the problem might be real.
Doesn’t matter what the truth is about the actual level of risk. What matters is how people are going to react. Will the xxxx family fly to Disney World this summer or would they rather change their plans to a drivable destination? Will that young couple fly down to that beach resort in the Caribbean or rather drive to a domestic beach destination? It doesn’t take much for leisure travelers to say “Better safe than sorry. We’ll fly next year”

DrSteveBrule 02-28-2020 08:48 PM

myrtle gonna have corona the same as punta cana. The fear of this thing will wear off once everyone realizes healthy adults are gonna get some pukes and a cough and some butt squeeze and then move on with their lives. Old people might wanna stay home tho


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RemoveB4flght 02-29-2020 07:45 AM

Flying to LAX the other day half the people in the terminal wearing surgical masks, landing in FLL people were wearing the safety masks from Home Depot (#spiritpax)

The irony is that both types are made in China.

Markets are people’s reactions as much as anything.

Omniscient 02-29-2020 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2986469)
Flying to LAX the other day half the people in the terminal wearing surgical masks, landing in FLL people were wearing the safety masks from Home Depot (#spiritpax)

The irony is that both types are made in China.

Markets are people’s reactions as much as anything.

I laugh when I see someone with the face mask pulled down and on the cell phone. Clearly serious about keeping germs out

LandGreen 02-29-2020 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 2985871)
I doubt Delta is running 777's from FLL to PIT.

You’re probably right. But their 737 that would have otherwise done LA to JFK is likely going to get repurposed to do the FLL to PIT type runs while the 777 picks up the heavy markets

BD100 02-29-2020 09:09 AM

COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE:

*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentage shown below does NOT represent in any way the share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19.
AGE DEATH RATE
confirmed cases DEATH RATEall cases
80+ years old 21.9%
14.8% 70-79 years old
8.0% 60-69 years old
3.6% 50-59 years old
1.3% 40-49 years old
0.4% 30-39 years old
0.2% 20-29 years old
0.2% 10-19 years old
0.2% 0-9 years old
no fatalities*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%).

In general, relatively few cases are seen among children.

dutchroller 02-29-2020 09:23 AM

Much more than a light breeze could take out a decent percentage of 80+ year olds.


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FNGFO 02-29-2020 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by LandGreen (Post 2986522)
You’re probably right. But their 737 that would have otherwise done LA to JFK is likely going to get repurposed to do the FLL to PIT type runs while the 777 picks up the heavy markets

They still have to break even or take a small loss on the flight. Not easy to do competing head on with a ULCC while having highly compensated personnel.


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