Only major airline with no bailout agreement?
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I tend to agree. What is drastically different for Spirit ? It seems everybody else is cooperating, graduating. Of course I may not understand the big picture.
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I guess some of you haven't been following any of this since the final ruling from the DOT on the 7th.
https://www.transportation.gov/sites...er%20FINAL.PDF
We have applied for an exemption (which it spells out on the last page of the final DOT ruling). and also mentioned here:
https://www.flightglobal.com/network...137825.article
If the DOT doesn't grant us this, all it means is we start up those stations that we don't go to right now and fly it 3x a week, which we are planning doing in May anyways. Why do you think Ted sent out that email today, right after this news came out about how we are not listed? Probably to let us know that they are finishing the deal. Which means the DOT accepted our request or we start flying those those stations listed in the final ruling 3x a week, or anything in between.
"Spirit Airlines Inc, a low-cost carrier which was not listed by the Treasury as reaching agreement, said it expects "to agree on terms soon" for payroll grants."
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-tre...203413315.html
This is not about if we are getting the money or not, it's about what we have to do to meet the DOT's requirements to get it.
https://www.transportation.gov/sites...er%20FINAL.PDF
We have applied for an exemption (which it spells out on the last page of the final DOT ruling). and also mentioned here:
https://www.flightglobal.com/network...137825.article
If the DOT doesn't grant us this, all it means is we start up those stations that we don't go to right now and fly it 3x a week, which we are planning doing in May anyways. Why do you think Ted sent out that email today, right after this news came out about how we are not listed? Probably to let us know that they are finishing the deal. Which means the DOT accepted our request or we start flying those those stations listed in the final ruling 3x a week, or anything in between.
"Spirit Airlines Inc, a low-cost carrier which was not listed by the Treasury as reaching agreement, said it expects "to agree on terms soon" for payroll grants."
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-tre...203413315.html
This is not about if we are getting the money or not, it's about what we have to do to meet the DOT's requirements to get it.
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"In January, Frontier officials announced they were suspending operations in Mobile and the last scheduled Frontier flight was scheduled to take place April 22. That obviously changes with Monday’s announcement."
https://www.thecallnews.com/2020/04/...lando-flights/
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That's because Frontier and Allegiant didn't apply for the exemption like we did and if they did, it was already approved by the DOT which I highly doubt it. They just went with the final DOT's ruling and added flights that they cut.
"In January, Frontier officials announced they were suspending operations in Mobile and the last scheduled Frontier flight was scheduled to take place April 22. That obviously changes with Monday’s announcement."
https://www.thecallnews.com/2020/04/...lando-flights/
"In January, Frontier officials announced they were suspending operations in Mobile and the last scheduled Frontier flight was scheduled to take place April 22. That obviously changes with Monday’s announcement."
https://www.thecallnews.com/2020/04/...lando-flights/
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It’s not as if we were the only airline to ask for exemptions JB did and has finalized an agreement.
https://www.flightglobal.com/network...137825.article
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It’s not as if we were the only airline to ask for exemptions JB did and has finalized an agreement.
https://www.flightglobal.com/network...137825.article
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Frontier applied for exemption from 35 cities... don't know if the request was granted or not.Frontier requests an exemption from its Service Obligation under DOT Order 2020-4-2 to allow it to temporarily suspend service from April 13, 2020 through June 10, 2020 at the following 35 communities:
Albany, NY (ALB)
Billings, MT (BIL)
Bloomington, IL (BMI)
Boston, MA Metropolitan Region (BOS/PVD)1 Burlington, VT (BTV)
Buffalo, NY (BUF)
Bozeman, MT (BZN)
Cedar Rapids, IA (CID) Charlotte, NC (CLT) Columbus, OH (CMH) Colorado Springs, CO (COS) Detroit, MI (DTW)
El Paso, TX (ELP)
Fargo, ND (FAR)
Sioux Falls, SD (FSD)
Spokane, WA (GEG)
Green Bay, WI (GRB)
Grand Rapids, MI (GRR) Greenville/Spartanburg, SC (GSP) Harlingen, TX (HRL)
Huntsville, AL (HSV) Wichita, KS (ICT) Jacksonville, FL (JAX) Madison, WI (MSN) Norfolk, VA (ORF)
West Palm Beach, FL (PBI) Pittsburgh, PA (PIT)
Palm Springs, CA (PSP) Portland, ME (PWM) Raleigh/Durham, NC (RDU) Louisville, KY (SDF) Syracuse, NY (SYR)
Tyler, TX (TYR) Knoxville, TN (TYS)
Albany, NY (ALB)
Billings, MT (BIL)
Bloomington, IL (BMI)
Boston, MA Metropolitan Region (BOS/PVD)1 Burlington, VT (BTV)
Buffalo, NY (BUF)
Bozeman, MT (BZN)
Cedar Rapids, IA (CID) Charlotte, NC (CLT) Columbus, OH (CMH) Colorado Springs, CO (COS) Detroit, MI (DTW)
El Paso, TX (ELP)
Fargo, ND (FAR)
Sioux Falls, SD (FSD)
Spokane, WA (GEG)
Green Bay, WI (GRB)
Grand Rapids, MI (GRR) Greenville/Spartanburg, SC (GSP) Harlingen, TX (HRL)
Huntsville, AL (HSV) Wichita, KS (ICT) Jacksonville, FL (JAX) Madison, WI (MSN) Norfolk, VA (ORF)
West Palm Beach, FL (PBI) Pittsburgh, PA (PIT)
Palm Springs, CA (PSP) Portland, ME (PWM) Raleigh/Durham, NC (RDU) Louisville, KY (SDF) Syracuse, NY (SYR)
Tyler, TX (TYR) Knoxville, TN (TYS)
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2020-0037-0049
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You’re right I have no idea if those exemptions were granted or not, all I know is JB (and Frontier who applied for exemptions) came to an agreement and thus far we have not.
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I couldn't find the official request such as this one sent to the DOT, that's why i assume Frontier and Allegiant didn't ask for it
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2020-0037-0049
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2020-0037-0049
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