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04-16-2020 | 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nuball5

Well I guess agree to disagree then. My wife works for a large consulting firm and they are just waiting for the green light to get consultants traveling again. I’m sure they’re not the only ones.

I also think that an initial uptick in business travel when things start improving will boost the confidence in leisure travelers that it’s safe to travel again and jumpstart the leisure market.

The green light getting lit is a big hurdle when rules are set in place prohibiting a lighter.

04-16-2020 | 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FNGFO

Also, grandma doesn’t always live a short drive away, and $29 tickets will win out over 8 hours of extra fam time in the car.

because spirit makes so much money selling a plane 50% full of $29 tickets

04-16-2020 | 08:49 PM

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because spirit makes so much money selling a plane 50% full of $29 tickets

It’s a better deal even with $55 in average ancillaries. You’ll easily spend that much in food and gas on an 8-10 hour road trip to see the family. Ask me how I know.

04-16-2020 | 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nuball5

it’s crazy how many people on my Facebook are already talking about their plans as soon as they can travel. (Most are talking about flying away)

04-16-2020 | 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nuball5

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...nonavirus/amp/

“Business travel will recover more quickly than leisure travel but at a permanently lower level.”

No offense but that article was written back in March and the situation has evolved greatly since then. Obviously what I wrote was pure conjecture, but checkout the federal guidance released this evening pertaining to the reopening of society:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...elines-PDF.pdf

I realize this is just guidance but check it out, by phase 2 it says that individuals can resume non-essential travel while employers are told to keep encouraging employees to telework when possible. I'm not making the stuff up out of thin air, and who knows how all of this is actually gonna go down.

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04-17-2020 | 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SSlow

Exactly. It's called having a credit card, and getting there cheap will be the name of the game. Most people don't give a damn about complimentary pretzels and soda at this point.

Well my family has the discretionary income. We even have the want to go somewhere warm and beachy. But we aren’t spending a penny once things start to, “normalize”. And that’s just the point... Leisure travel will take quite some time to bounce back simply because consumer confidence will be tanked by the fall time.

04-17-2020 | 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Avro85

If Ted couldn't get the deal he needs, then I don't blame him for not agreeing to the LEGACY AIRLINE LOBBYIST'S terms. Forced to lose millons upon millions by operating flights that passengers are being told (by politicians) to not be on seems like a self inflicted mortal wound.

Agreed, but FIFY. Politicians just sign off on the paperwork and maybe make some suggestions. The Big 3 want NK gone.

04-17-2020 | 04:37 AM

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just saw something that the first thing people are going to do is work, and make money, before engaging in spending/travel.

especially the leisure traveler types.

apparently a new sense of financial awareness is out there after being locked down and watching bills accumulate for a month

04-17-2020 | 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FNGFO

It’s a better deal even with $55 in average ancillaries. You’ll easily spend that much in food and gas on an 8-10 hour road trip to see the family. Ask me how I know.

The problem is we don't know if strangers will want to sit with 150 other strangers in a small tube in the sky.

Riding in a car with known family members, and having the car available at the destination, is huge.

04-17-2020 | 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by senecacaptain

The economy doesn't move unless people spend their money. And a certain cheeto in Chief won't get re-elected unless the economy is moving. Now I'm all for fiscal responsibility, but some people live pay check to pay check or with fixed income no matter the state of the economy. And a $20 ticket will be just too irresistible to most.