MCDU will report fuel burn during CRZ in teaspoons..

The prospect of 4,000 mile routes in a narrow body doesn't get me as excited.

New destinations, more growth for spirit. I’m excited about that.

i’d rather do one long leg than two or three shorter legs but that’s just me.

OK so we don’t fly at widebody speeds and takes 20 minutes longer to get there...Big whoop!

I actually agree with you.

...the prospect of newer fuel efficient planes makes me happy, some people are never happy no matter what.

Agreed. The pax, not having KCM or even precheck, having gotten to the airport two hours early, endured security and boarding and the twenty minute taxi (at a busy hub or forty minute taxi if you have to deice) to the runway, and similar long taxi to the gate on the other end, are scarcely going to notice the difference between a Mach 0.82 cruise or a Mach 0.88 cruise to a destination 3000 miles away (where they’ll wait 45 minutes in line for their rental car anyway).

Getting them on-board WiFi would be a lot more of a priority for most of them. They can binge-watch their Netflix then.

And we are paid by the hour anyway and the two seats up front are really pretty comfortable.

Not to mention that every additional leg is 45-60 minutes of unpaid work. (So is the first one, but hey)

Another walk around
Another MCDU loading
Another "how hot will this get before Im forced to fire up the APU because they wont hook up air"
Another "im over waiting for air, but I still am required to wait a few minutes after APU start before I can use the bleed"
Another "Ops, can you have them disconnect external air, its blowing hot"
Another "Oh, we are landing with 5.0 fuel again, ugh...I want more"
Another "Door is open, mask up in front of the pax"

etc etc etc....

versus, seat back, feet up, getting paid by the minute...and crushing peanut M&Ms

nailed it!

I had plenty of long legs, to destinations that were long distances over water, to different continents all over the globe, in a previous life. I love that we don’t do that here. Sign me up for <2 hour flights.

I think you missed the point. Besides we aren’t talking about flying all over the globe...But good for you.

Obviously, I’m the one that missed the point. Thank you for your valued input.

Out of curiosity, couldn’t there be a best of both worlds? I know alot of systems allow you to preference all kinds of factors, does Spirit not allow you to avoid longer legs?

Agree with everything except the peanut M&Ms
I think getting paid 0:45 per leg on top of block or better, and keep all other rigs would be better. At least than when you get the Burbank shuttle you make actually make bank...

And yes, that would mean an hourly pay cut to keep pilot cost constant.

An interesting idea. Do any other airlines do such a thing?

It’s all in the eyes of the beholder. Some of us did 5+ legs a day flying through the same damned line of weather only to hear passengers ***** getting on and off, dealing with EDCTs, gate availability, and the inevitable reassignment during your ‘long’ sit of an hour when you were going to drop the kids off at the pool and get lunch.... To each their own. :)

Probably not and both the union and management would be apprehensive. Keeping the cost the same would require them to know if multi leg days would go senior or not, and thy both hate unknowns.

From my comfy seat up front, lunch on the tray, flight deck is wide enough for me.
I don't really care how wide the tube flares behind me. Just as long as I don't have to go across 4-8 time zones and have to get my 30hrs of productive rest on the backside of the clock - bring on the long range NEO
I don't give a rat's ass as to # of aisles in the back.

Pretty much and if I get a pairing with a long DH on it, I drop it. Then again, I know guys who love long deadheads, they figure they are getting 100% to watch TV in the back.

My dang feet are getting cold just thinking about a 4000 mile leg.

These will help you fit in in LA and Spirit color.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.DCxIxo...=7&o=5&pid=1.7

Glad I’m not the only one whose feet turn to blocks of ice on 2+hr legs

If you close every vent in the cockpit it will become cold.... open the vents! All of them!

Also it’s starting to warm up, I don’t need every single light on in the cockpit during the middle of the day. Like I ask my wife, turn the lights off when you leave please we ain’t rich.

Are you the guy who turns down the screens when leaving the plane?

That still annoys me... Mostly the old DTW guys who don't understand the difference between CRT and LCD. The same guys that can't let go of the way "We did it when Carlson was the DO" type.... ugh

Haha...this is true. "On the 9, these things would get very hot"

I’m the guy who turns down the radar... I kid. That guy has gotten me a few times too many!

For real, the back lighting does not need to be on during the day time, especially at the gate. So help me stay cool in my polyester and turn the lights off before you leave please.

And stay off my lawn! 😆

Same guys that won’t expense a cab to the hotel after 30 minutes because one time back when Carlson was DO he refused to reimburse them.

I never realised how cold my feet were unitl I had a captain tell me how cold his feet always get, now I notice it all the time.

Good thing both pilots are free to get the cab and expense it.

My coldest feet were on my wedding day.

That’s exactly what I would do. They’re free to stand on the curb and continue to wait, I want to go to sleep.

Wait, you only had one wedding day?

It’s certainly cheaper that way.

Half of half of half of half is...

Wedding days are so awesome, I want them at least 3 times in my life.

Some guys get discounts for frequent stays in the honeymoon suite at the resort, To each his own.

Perhaps you should care. We're operating 787 capacity airplanes at less than 220 rates with an inferior night and international override.

You said you don't want to cross 4+ time zones and then say 'bring on the long range NEO'. That appears contradictory.

Mope. My message was entirely lost by my own poor writing. I meant I’ll fly baby bus on domestic ULCC routes, including longer north south trips staying +|~ 2-3 hours from base.
don’t need no transoceanic flying

787 capacity? Didn't realize we flew wide bodies with a 381 seats (up to 440 for the -10), and 5000 cubic feet of cargo space, that can fly 7000NM.

Agree that we are paid less than the rest, but keep the comparison fair.
You should compare us to the legacy NBs. Yes, they have less seats, but their premium seats bring in money we will never see for a BFS. I commuted internationally, didn't have to pay the fare, but regularly saw people paying $10K for an 8 hour leg. How many of those people are going to fly on NK do you think?