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Originally Posted by flyingmonkeys
(Post 3045013)
Yes RSV is getting hosed. Especially those that commute. I was holding LCR just hanging out waiting for a call. Now I can’t hold LCR got R05 and I need to hang in a hotel or crash pad waiting for a call that has an infantismal chance of coming. If I knew that this would happen I would have bid a VIL just to avoid the ridiculous out of pocket cost. Yes, I would come out ahead a little bit 72 vs 50 even with a hotel but my time is worth a lot more than the difference. Go top it off I can’t even bid a VIL for June because I would lose my landing currency in the first half of July... what’s the logic with that? I’m handcuffed into short call reserve for the foreseeable future.
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Originally Posted by OpentimeVirus
(Post 3045150)
People, People! We have the easiest job until we don’t; the hardest part of this job is to become a senior captain for the majority of your airline career. Pay, vacation, schedule, which equals quality of life, is only possible being high on a seniority list in this line of work. Never jump from a list unless it’s from a regional, or the airline is furloughing while all or most airlines are hiring. Don’t ever voluntarily leave a list unless you believe that is a list you wouldn’t mind spending your career on. The last 30 years, especially since 9/11 has proven how un wise it is to hop around from list to list. It blew my mind when pilots with projected senior captain longevity for many years ahead left to become junior FOs once again only to expose themselves to another predictable industry downturn. Seniority is all we have in the airline industry; complaining about what your life is because you lack seniority in seat or base is pathetic. If you chose wisely, the problems you’re experiencing with ‘your today’s downturn’ won’t be as impactful next time because you’ll have seniority on your side. Be happy you’re here, and hopefully your seniority keeps you receiving a pay check once Oct 1 rears it’s ugly head.
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Originally Posted by Meep
(Post 3045158)
i don’t even understand this post. Are you saying you predicted this downturn?
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Originally Posted by flyingmonkeys
(Post 3045013)
Yes RSV is getting hosed. Especially those that commute. I was holding LCR just hanging out waiting for a call. Now I can’t hold LCR got R05 and I need to hang in a hotel or crash pad waiting for a call that has an infantismal chance of coming. If I knew that this would happen I would have bid a VIL just to avoid the ridiculous out of pocket cost. Yes, I would come out ahead a little bit 72 vs 50 even with a hotel but my time is worth a lot more than the difference. Go top it off I can’t even bid a VIL for June because I would lose my landing currency in the first half of July... what’s the logic with that? I’m handcuffed into short call reserve for the foreseeable future.
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Originally Posted by OpentimeVirus
(Post 3045178)
No one can predict a downturn to a specific date, but only an idiot wouldn’t expect an eventual downturn or several downturns in a 40+ career. Only join a major airline list you want to forever remain on. Seniority is the only buffer you have against eventual, predictable, and historical dark years the airline industry reliably delivers. The happiest pilot, is a pilot that spends his airline career on one list for 30+ years. Jumping around will get you screwed. Complaining about how your seniority isn’t affording you x,y, and z during a downturn should solidify the ramifications of the airline seniority system. If you stay on the same list, next go around it won’t be you complaining; but if you jump around it will be you every time with every downturn. Chill on the complaining and learn from the life lesson.
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Is every single trip really a day trip? How about things like DTW-LAX? Only way to make that work would be with a deadhead one way.
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Originally Posted by Ed Force One
(Post 3045710)
Is every single trip really a day trip? How about things like DTW-LAX? Only way to make that work would be with a deadhead one way.
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Originally Posted by DrDHD
(Post 3045741)
that’s how ord works to lax - 8h 44 min day trip - fly out deadhead back or vice versa.
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
(Post 3045599)
This is all spot on, until your airline goes under then it doesn't matter how much seniority you have. There is something to be said for working at an airline that is "too big to fail." Even if you get furloughed from UAL/DAL/AA/SWA you will most likely have an airline to come back to.
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Originally Posted by ramalama
(Post 3045953)
Yeah thats what those guys say that work for Pan Am, TWA, Eastern.....oh wait....
He did say "most likely" so... |
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