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Really? now we're gonna be the company's accountants? What's next, asking for less money in 2023 because "think of the company's financials"

Give me a break.

What was financially irresponsible like the poster above me said is that the company agreed to it.

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Originally Posted by sioux8ships (Post 3042975)

What’s even more awesome is the same 2 or 3 guys nabbed 80% of the trips in open time in my base. ALPA claims BOT enforcement is on the company! The company could care less. Thanks for protecting the pilots ALPA! A simple CAPTCHA and this BOT crap is done!

We would probably have better luck emailing Sabre directly. [email protected]

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Originally Posted by PilotMechanic (Post 3042980)

We would probably have better luck emailing Sabre directly. [email protected]

I’ve tried that approach..

Guess I should feel bad for the pilot that needs8-10 (minimum) day trips on top of guarantee to survive...

probably be the same dudes flying X list while pilots are on furlough.

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Originally Posted by sioux8ships (Post 3042975)

Some unions have a strong Pro Stan committee. Other unions have been known to have counseling sessions with reps and the problem children (usually problem children for both company and union). Crazy ideas are out there for solutions to today's modern problems.

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Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 3042976)

Absolutely not. The company already proved we are only a small amount of the total cost by paying all of the april and may flying above guarantee. I just dont agree it happened the way it did, and it will definitely not motivate anybody to bid VIL....

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Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3042934)

AFAIK, SWA with the same reschedule, decided to reassign trips in reverse seniority on "TAJ" days. I think it was financially irresponsible of the union to request above guarantee/line value pay for trips that could have been contractually signed out without extra pay.

Sounds like the company threw a small percentage of the pilot group a bone. What did the company get in return? Might be small potatoes, but the idea that Spirit spent x millions and got nothing in return is a bit far fetched. All pilots probably would have been on board if the bone was shared with everyone.

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Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3043028)

agreed....

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Originally Posted by Xjrstreetcar (Post 3043077)

The company doesn’t give one tiny little single f-bomb how money is divided among pilots, they only care if the result saves them a single dollar over the alternative.

The first time the company wanted to reshuffle the deck after the bid, it cost them COVID pay protections (or in other words next to nothing).

The second time it cost them $3 million dollars, split evenly.

The third time, well a huge chunk of the pilot force is out on voluntary leave at half pay. No reserve pilot will break guarantee, the line pilots credit was already accounted and planned for even if they sit home. Nothing changes there.

So what you have is the total amount of credit from the new schedule unequally distributed to a fraction of the pilot group.

I don’t know what the new total credit for May became, but average left and right seat salary at straight time, multiply it by that amount of credit. If that’s less than 3 million, they win.

All sounds solid. Wouldn't think the company would care, but what about those representing the pilots...