Either way they just told 1000 guys they are fools and would’ve gotten the entire month off for line value plus a bonus if they want to work a little. Then told all the rsv that we just gave all the lineholders a bonus but to forget to be in position for your RAPs.

I agree with this, it’s almost as if they want to spend the most amount of money they can it’s insane. Also it’s clear at this point management has no idea what they are doing.


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Well, they’re not covering payroll for a few months, and nearly half the pilot group is on reduced lines.

I don’t really see what the hullabaloo is here. People need to bid for what that want, NOT something that strategically mathematically possibly grammatically may happen.

You want the whole month off? Bid VIL, you got it! (Assuming senior enough.)
You want to fly? Bid a line! (You get it if you’re senior enough.)
You want to be on reserve (knowing how crappy some aspects are), bid it!

I fail to see why people are so ****ed because some lucked out who chose to fly. And, fwiw, I am by no ways senior in my bid status....

So are you saying that it could save about 600 pilots because 1.25 +1.25 is still below 3M savings from VIL?

Explain to me how all 1000 pilots would have got line valve and a bonus if they work a little? you think all of those 1000 would be a line holder? For Example, there was only 38 lines in LAS and 74 who took the VIL. As a commuter, and on reserve, i would be using my commuter clause for just about everything time I had an LCR assignment, (due to the reduce flight schedules) or sit in the crash pad for 2/3 of the month. Many commuter didn't want to deal with that especially if they knew they would be on reserve.

My guess is the company didn't have a lot of choices but to dump the schedule and rebuild, to comply with the minimum service. So we can do routes like this:

https://www.cleveland.com/business/2...-columbus.html

Nah. I mean if every drop saved were poured back into the pilot portion of payroll and benefits then maybe 400+. 300 FO’s at minimum guarantee plus bennies isn’t probably more like $2M a month. That’s a total wag, but probably in the ball park. So somewhere above that number at $3.3M saves a month with 1000 VILs taken. Maybe 450. Take that for the guess that it is.

so now all the rsv commuters have to go sit in the pad all month when the lineholders get the month off to roam about. Rsv lines should be dumped and needed rsv put into open time for pick up above guarantee and all VILs made whole to 72hrs

I just saw the new open time trips under crew trac,
in DFW it’s less than April, some days doing only 1 flight a day.