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Old 07-13-2020 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain
Big-3/Majors seem to ask for voluntary leaves, offer early-out packages (AA, SWA), and cut non-pilot staff (AA) before using the F word.

Has Spirit done all of the above? My understanding is not one non-Pilot (admin, HR, etc.) at Spirit has been laid off/cut yet.
Because Spirit has always had one person doing the job of three people and pay them half as much as other airlines. That’s why there is more turnover and no one ever answers the phone. They have always run lean. Baldanza used to only turn on half the ballest lights at hq.
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Old 07-13-2020 | 06:19 PM
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Super cereal, lines are getting ridiculous, 20+ minutes for ‘fast food’?! People are unemployed, demand exists; penis meets vagina....
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Old 07-13-2020 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
Super cereal, lines are getting ridiculous, 20+ minutes for ‘fast food’?! People are unemployed, demand exists; penis meets vagina....
What kind of "super cereal" are we talking about....Captain Crunch?
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Old 07-13-2020 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by balakay
What kind of "super cereal" are we talking about....Captain Crunch?
I noticed today that “captain crunch” only has 3 stripes. They should rename the cereal.
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Old 07-13-2020 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
I noticed today that “captain crunch” only has 3 stripes. They should rename the cereal.
perhaps he was at a regional first.
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Old 07-13-2020 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain
Big-3/Majors seem to ask for voluntary leaves, offer early-out packages (AA, SWA), and cut non-pilot staff (AA) before using the F word.
Has Spirit done all of the above? My understanding is not one non-Pilot (admin, HR, etc.) at Spirit has been laid off/cut yet.

Big three have thousands of pilots retiring in the next 5 years, NK has 50, so early out isn't going to do much. For every displaced WB Captain the big three have 6-ish full training events, and they just furloughed half of the training center, for NK, 1 SIM session and a line check and you are an FO again. Spirit has ZERO incentive to offer paid leave, so don't count on any paid long term leave. The only reason SWA is offering long term paid leave (200K/year as a 12 year FO ) is because furloughs sound bad, when is the last time NK woried about sounding bad?
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Old 07-13-2020 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Big three have thousands of pilots retiring in the next 5 years, NK has 50, so early out isn't going to do much. For every displaced WB Captain the big three have 6-ish full training events, and they just furloughed half of the training center, for NK, 1 SIM session and a line check and you are an FO again. Spirit has ZERO incentive to offer paid leave, so don't count on any paid long term leave. The only reason SWA is offering long term paid leave (200K/year as a 12 year FO ) is because furloughs sound bad, when is the last time NK woried about sounding bad?
You get it....... I wish others would understand.
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Old 07-14-2020 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Big three have thousands of pilots retiring in the next 5 years, NK has 50, so early out isn't going to do much. For every displaced WB Captain the big three have 6-ish full training events, and they just furloughed half of the training center, for NK, 1 SIM session and a line check and you are an FO again. Spirit has ZERO incentive to offer paid leave, so don't count on any paid long term leave. The only reason SWA is offering long term paid leave (200K/year as a 12 year FO ) is because furloughs sound bad, when is the last time NK woried about sounding bad?
Just a correction......paid leave at SWA is not 200K annually for an FO.
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Old 07-14-2020 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Big three have thousands of pilots retiring in the next 5 years, NK has 50, so early out isn't going to do much. For every displaced WB Captain the big three have 6-ish full training events, and they just furloughed half of the training center, for NK, 1 SIM session and a line check and you are an FO again. Spirit has ZERO incentive to offer paid leave, so don't count on any paid long term leave. The only reason SWA is offering long term paid leave (200K/year as a 12 year FO ) is because furloughs sound bad, when is the last time NK woried about sounding bad?

when they still ran classes to honor job offers this spring....
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Old 07-14-2020 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Just a correction......paid leave at SWA is not 200K annually for an FO.
According to my wife, haven’t done the maths myself. If you include sick accrual, 4 weeks of vacation pay, nec it comes to 195K. Close enough
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