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Jimdunbar 07-29-2020 12:18 PM

They don’t anticipate demand returning before summer 2021. 319’s are most likely candidates for parking. They don’t know if they will park them short term like they did in April or long term. We can’t sustain this cash burn and have to take steps to “right size” the airline. They will evaluate how many furloughs for office support at a later date. For now, pilots, FA, dispatch and mechanics are being served their 60 WARN notice. How many of those will actually be furloughed won’t be know until 30 days prior to the end of the CARES act. If the government continues the CARES act, they will re-evaluate once the detains are known about the extension. They didn’t sound real solid that that would prevent the “Right Sizing” the airline. He did say that downgrades would be “Commensurate” with the number of furloughs

Stryker172 07-29-2020 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3101279)
could you please go over the highlights? I was flying and couldn’t listen in.

You didn't miss anything important. The admins selected some ridiculous and irrelevant questions so nothing truly pertinent was addressed.

CLE to IAH 07-29-2020 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Stryker172 (Post 3101290)
You didn't miss anything important. The admins selected some ridiculous and irrelevant questions so nothing truly pertinent was addressed.

the questions that non pilots ask kill me.

Qotsaautopilot 07-29-2020 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by flyingpuma1 (Post 3101262)
We are losing 100 million a month, there will be furloughs.

Wasn’t $1.5M a day the number from the earnings call. Whatever they say to investors should be factual. What they say to employees is part of the spin game.

Yes there will be furloughs. 806, most likely not.

69fastback 07-29-2020 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Jimdunbar (Post 3101272)
The town hall wasn’t very positive. I’d say chance of furloughs and downgrades, 100%

if anyone thought otherwise, they were just being naive.

SeriousShirley 07-29-2020 01:32 PM

Speaking of being naďve :rolleyes:... What do you think the chances are of our furloughed pilots actually seeing the “furlough pay” outlined in the contract? Are they likely to honor it, or are they going to try to pull AoG despite having 6mo to prepare?

Meep 07-29-2020 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by SeriousShirley (Post 3101325)
Speaking of being naďve :rolleyes:... What do you think the chances are of our furloughed pilots actually seeing the “furlough pay” outlined in the contract? Are they likely to honor it, or are they going to try to pull AoG despite having 6mo to prepare?

0% chance of furlough pay

Mtnbikemike 07-29-2020 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Meep (Post 3101329)
0% chance of furlough pay

Union should start stepping up with communications about furlough pay, COBRA coverage, costs, CARES Act rules of borrowing from 401k, IRA, refinancing, mental health assistance, assistance from ALPA, reps should be reaching out to the guys who got WARN letters. Lots of folks here have their heads spinning and need some direction.

Stryker172 07-29-2020 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by SeriousShirley (Post 3101325)
Speaking of being naďve :rolleyes:... What do you think the chances are of our furloughed pilots actually seeing the “furlough pay” outlined in the contract? Are they likely to honor it, or are they going to try to pull AoG despite having 6mo to prepare?

I don't expect to see a penny.

Jimdunbar 07-29-2020 02:32 PM

I’m sure this falls in the out of companies control/act of god. No furlough pay. As far as borrowing from your 401K, that info is on the Schwab website. In a nurse, you can pull up too $100k (I think) but you have to pay it back by the end of this year to avoid penalties and interest


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