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king10pin02 09-25-2020 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by phly (Post 3135445)
It would definitely be great news if they started to offer early returns from EIL but I was kind of looking forward to 6-8 months in lineholder territory.

if we add flying back and recall/hire you will hold a line quickly anyway

CincoDeMayo 09-25-2020 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by king10pin02 (Post 3135168)
doubt there will be any more eil. we are adding back a ton and have heard they will be asking pilots to come back early

And no VILs for November will be offered..all good news and probably shows that they might need pilots sooner vs later

ASAPsafetyGUY 09-25-2020 05:39 PM

I hope it's real. All I hear on the news is that cases are going to skyrocket starting next month. 23 states already increasing. I've never been a doom and gloom guy, but I think the economy is about to fall off a cliff. I think hospitals are going to fill up soon, election fraud allegations from both sides, the stock market shall react to all of this, I just don't see a short-term recovery. Maybe Spring next year. But until this vaccine is here, this might be a short-lived rebound like June or July was. I HOPE I AM WRONG!!! I so want to get back to normal life.

flyjbh 09-25-2020 06:07 PM

Gotta stop watching the news and look around.


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CincoDeMayo 09-25-2020 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 3135804)
I hope it's real. All I hear on the news is that cases are going to skyrocket starting next month. 23 states already increasing. I've never been a doom and gloom guy, but I think the economy is about to fall off a cliff. I think hospitals are going to fill up soon, election fraud allegations from both sides, the stock market shall react to all of this, I just don't see a short-term recovery. Maybe Spring next year. But until this vaccine is here, this might be a short-lived rebound like June or July was. I HOPE I AM WRONG!!! I so want to get back to normal life.

Take a breath. You were able to dodge a furlough; you’re playing with house money at this point. Enjoy the ride

offmyrocker 09-25-2020 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3135850)
Take a breath. You were able to dodge a furlough; you’re playing with house money at this point. Enjoy the ride

Absolutely right. No complaints! Won’t be back for at least 8 months. Beyond thankful for how well mngnt and Union did putting this together.

week 09-25-2020 08:34 PM

As far as the outlook for the fall, I’m hoping it comes true, but we all saw what happened in June/July when bookings vaporized. Fingers crossed it all works out

king10pin02 09-26-2020 03:13 AM


Originally Posted by week (Post 3135885)
As far as the outlook for the fall, I’m hoping it comes true, but we all saw what happened in June/July when bookings vaporized. Fingers crossed it all works out

they didnt though, our bookings were 1-2 weeke out, no one was buying tickets 3-4 months out so market planning was kinda lost.

CincoDeMayo 09-26-2020 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by week (Post 3135885)
As far as the outlook for the fall, I’m hoping it comes true, but we all saw what happened in June/July when bookings vaporized. Fingers crossed it all works out

Well call me crazy but bookings rose during those times because the media stopped non stop focus on Covid and spent the month on BLM and the George Floyd murder; and because our bookings have been close in, people took a moment to focus on other things and many traveled. Ted even mentioned something along these in an earnings call.

For the last few weeks the media has been trying to push the CDC report on people being exposed to Covid on planes (even though they say they can’t definitively say where the person contracted Covid) but that hasn’t stuck with the public and it seems numbers are still holding steady and increasing; enough that more block hours are coming.

My 2 cents is people are now at the acceptance phase of Covid, many have the belief a vaccine will be available to Americans soon enough, and many more are educating themselves about the low probability of complications of it. Not trying to downplay, but it does seem Covid fatigue has really set in for most Americans and we now accept it as just a part of life for the moment. We are fortunate that we live in a country where we don’t have to “accept” many risks when we wake up each morning.

Nonetheless, many are putting their big boy pants on, doing what they can to limit exposure with masks, trying to social distance when able, and starting to live a life again

flyjbh 09-27-2020 04:28 AM

Discontinue your sensible thinking immediately! Thank you. Sincerely, CDC


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