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Originally Posted by Cockpit997
(Post 3429122)
Some of you guys are nuts. I thought you had to be good at math to be a pilot?
Weak troll attempt I’m sorry man, Spirit just isn’t into JBLU. I know that’s hard to understand. |
Originally Posted by Tranquility
(Post 3429066)
New bases and career stability with the F9 merger will fix all that. At least according to Ted….
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Originally Posted by NKSpilot
(Post 3429134)
He's talked to pilots out on the line and they all love it here. And praise his beard out of jealousy.
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3429058)
30 for April
162 total for the year So averaged 44 the first 3 months and 30 for April 122 net hires for the year. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk |
Hire 80 a month, lose 40? Is that right?
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Originally Posted by elmetal
(Post 3428710)
Just so you know, it's not like someone is intentionally doing this. This is just how the system finds a way to get more done with less.
They take maximum advantage of whatever we negotiate for. Fact. This is why we need stronger language in whatever we vote on next and not just rely on some magic duty rig fairy dust. |
Originally Posted by Ed Force One
(Post 3429247)
Seriously? Someone had to program the system. 23:59 hour overnights are *not* a coincidence, nor are they rare.
They take maximum advantage of whatever we negotiate for. Fact. This is why we need stronger language in whatever we vote on next and not just rely on some magic duty rig fairy dust. |
Originally Posted by Ed Force One
(Post 3429247)
Seriously? Someone had to program the system. 23:59 hour overnights are *not* a coincidence, nor are they rare.
They take maximum advantage of whatever we negotiate for. Fact. This is why we need stronger language in whatever we vote on next and not just rely on some magic duty rig fairy dust. Of course they're not a coincidence. The optimizer knows what costs are and avoids them. It's not the company out to get us, it's the software doing its job. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by elmetal
(Post 3429260)
Feel free to dart the scheduling committee, who also builds pairings, and ask them how it works.
Of course they're not a coincidence. The optimizer knows what costs are and avoids them. It's not the company out to get us, it's the software doing its job. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Min day is great but don’t be ****ed when it optimizes you to a 5am show day 1 and a 23:59 duty off on day 3 for 15 hours for 3 days pay, vs close to 20 with duty rigs. Keep increasing duty rigs is the equalizer to the optimizer |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3429264)
Why do people assume the company doesn’t try and maximize the contract to their advantage just as pilots do? And what changes do they suggest to work around the optimizer? Set the overnight to 22 hours for an extra day, and you’ll see 21:59 overnights. Trigger min day pay at midnight, you’ll see trips end at 23:59. People can crap on trip rigs but it’s the one constant to help counter an optimizer
Min day is great but don’t be ****ed when it optimizes you to a 5am show day 1 and a 23:59 duty off on day 3 for 15 hours for 3 days pay, vs close to 20 with duty rigs. Keep increasing duty rigs is the equalizer to the optimizer They feed flights into the optimizer (the one we use is kind of garbage, if it's not clear) and a bunch of rules and different weights on things. Like for example, avoid aircraft swaps in ATL for a value of XYZ. Etc etc. The optimizer also knows crew costs (contract) so it knows rigs, soft time, etc. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk |
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