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Lincoln Osiris 12-08-2023 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3733732)
This guy clearly doesn't do much internet-ing outside of APC

You talking about me?

CincoDeMayo 12-08-2023 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3733754)
You talking about me?

Clearly,

You’re the only one yelling at windmills

Lincoln Osiris 12-08-2023 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3733781)
Clearly,

You’re the only one yelling at windmills

You're a windmill?

Irishblackbird 12-08-2023 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3733685)
There is no foundation in stating just becuase the merger doesn't happen we go ch11. Pointless fear mongering doesn't help anyone.

I wouldn't say it's fear mongering, i would say it is a distinct possibility. Teddy even testified to this possibility in the hearing if im not mistaken. We have also asked for voluntary leaves and early outs for administrative folks. I believe the FAs were offered voluntary leaves as well. Our product is on a downward trend, and not just the fall slow down.

Lincoln Osiris 12-08-2023 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Irishblackbird (Post 3733804)
I wouldn't say it's fear mongering, i would say it is a distinct possibility. Teddy even testified to this possibility in the hearing if im not mistaken. We have also asked for voluntary leaves and early outs for administrative folks. I believe the FAs were offered voluntary leaves as well. Our product is on a downward trend, and not just the fall slow down.

As far as the quotes I could find he only mentioned that we haven't turned a proffit in 3 years. Unless you can find something else that I am missing. Point being, the companies financials is their problem, not ours. Wether its a CBA with JB or NK the companies financial outlook is none of my concern. I didn't set the current market for pilot compensation. They don't get a discount on fuel and A/C orders because of their financial situation. So why should they get a discount on pilots? Certainly Ted aint getting a discount on his compensation. I know pilots like to act like we know everything but the only people that truely know are on the board and up in that c suite. So us freaking out about it 24/7 only helps management out when it comes JCBA or CBA time down the road.

RemoveB4flght 12-08-2023 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3733832)
As far as the quotes I could find he only mentioned that we haven't turned a proffit in 3 years. Unless you can find something else that I am missing. Point being, the companies financials is their problem, not ours. Wether its a CBA with JB or NK the companies financial outlook is none of my concern. I didn't set the current market for pilot compensation. They don't get a discount on fuel and A/C orders because of their financial situation. So why should they get a discount on pilots? Certainly Ted aint getting a discount on his compensation. I know pilots like to act like we know everything but the only people that truely know are on the board and up in that c suite. So us freaking out about it 24/7 only helps management out when it comes JCBA or CBA time down the road.

Eh, don't worry, if we should find ourselves back in negotiations sans-merger 69% of the pilot group are poised and ready to accept the first offer from management and an NC already convinced today this morning whatever that offer is will be the best we can get. But apples or quid or something...

Lincoln Osiris 12-08-2023 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 3733860)
Eh, don't worry, if we should find ourselves back in negotiations sans-merger 69% of the pilot group are poised and ready to accept the first offer from management and an NC already convinced today this morning whatever that offer is will be the best we can get. But apples or quid or something...

No. Freaking. Joke. Wish this pilot group and our NC had some balls istead of being company salesmen.

69fastback 12-08-2023 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3733685)
There is no foundation in stating just becuase the merger doesn't happen we go ch11. Pointless fear mongering doesn't help anyone.

Well, you told me I was a “drama queen,” and “don’t know ****. I see now that you just don’t get it.

Lincoln Osiris 12-08-2023 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by 69fastback (Post 3733872)
Well, you told me I was a “drama queen,” and “don’t know ****. I see now that you just don’t get it.

You remember something I said way back in October? Man that did trigger you lol. And yes you are still a drama queen. Or would it help if I hid in the corner with you and we can freak out together for no reason?

SSlow 12-08-2023 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3733754)
You talking about me?

Correcto

The company is having serious financial trouble. You'd have to be blind and deaf to not know this.


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